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 Post subject: Re: Des Moines, Iowa - 22 August 2012 - LIVE SET LIST
PostPosted: Thu August 23rd, 2012, 13:02 GMT 
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A really great show in Des Moines (and a local one for me) -- but it's easy to get into the vibe of the show from the 5th row.

The back of the lower bowl of the Events Center was pretty sparsely populated and I'd say that the crowd numbered between 2K and 3K. It was a pretty low key crowd for the most part, but the reserved seating in the arena might have played a part in that...although I do hand it to Des Moines since most of the crowd up front stayed on their feet almost the entire show. I believe "Can't Wait" was the song that started putting people back in their seats but they quickly rebounded.

The highlight for me was "Visions of Johanna" and "Man in the Long Black Coat"...nothing quite beats Bob standing out in front of the band with only a microphone and a harmonica. He really takes command of the stage and the crowd definitely gets a charge out of it.

I was able to talk with a cool, local, down-to-earth, (female) Dylan fan sitting next to me (hey, that's a rarity in DSM! If you lived here you'd understand) and I was home about 20 minutes after BD left the stage. Best $50 that I've spent in a long time!

Mike


Thanks for the report!
(I hate seated shows...)


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 Post subject: Re: Des Moines, Iowa - 22 August 2012 - LIVE SET LIST
PostPosted: Thu August 23rd, 2012, 13:27 GMT 
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Things have Changed...I didn't say a new arrangement, said it sounds different. slighlty slower tempo, and Charlie was muting the strings and plucking the cords, so overall the band volume was way lower during the song, Bob was very clear. Still doing the bump bump bump thing at the end that they started in Mexico city. The band volume was lower during the whole show, may have been the venue, but it seems like the mix has been getting better each show.

I listened to every Europe show available, some twice, some twenty. Not to mention 50 shows I attended in the last few years, including 9 so far this year......I know when things have changed :)



The Dakota shows where ok, but I was begining to worry, I think Bob is building up energy again. The next 2 weeks should be amazing...........


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 Post subject: Re: Des Moines, Iowa - 22 August 2012 - LIVE SET LIST
PostPosted: Thu August 23rd, 2012, 13:29 GMT 
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unclejohn wrote:
I listened to every Europe show available, some twice, some twenty. Not to mention 50 shows I attended in the last few years, including 9 so far this year......I know when things have changed :)


Okay, that's something else then. :) We get reports and reviews of "all new" things quite often from people who attend less regularly. Glad you're enjoying it - I loved what I heard and saw earlier this summer.


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 Post subject: Re: Des Moines, Iowa - 22 August 2012 - LIVE SET LIST
PostPosted: Thu August 23rd, 2012, 16:38 GMT 
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listening now, the difference is exactly as Uncle John describes...the tempo i find to be about the same, but Charlie's guitar riffing is different...less gunslinger and more guitar axeman...

what a phenomenal show so far - LPBH continues to impress me, much as people rip on its overplayedness. It's continuing to evolve and get better...that's all I care about for a setlist choice these days...


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 Post subject: Re: Des Moines, Iowa - 22 August 2012 - LIVE SET LIST
PostPosted: Thu August 23rd, 2012, 16:39 GMT 

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movin_after_midnight wrote:
Ally wrote:
Great set list! Almost identical to last night; only two songs were switched up. It sounds like everyone had an amazing time.


I believe there were three different songs: Man in the Long Black Coat, High Water and Can't Wait. Also the order was changed slightly, with Simple Twist moved to song number 10.

Still, the consensus seems to be that, even though he's playing very similar set lists, the shows are high energy and fun. Lyrics to Tangled Up in Blue are different every night, and it sounds like Things Have Changed has changed, too.

Great times for Bobcats.


Sugar Baby was also different, so that made four (Man, Water, Sugar, Can't), and each was a treat for me (Rochester and Des Moines are my only shows for this leg). Can't Wait was especially great...just recalls the feel of TOOM so well, especially in this arrangement. Sugar Baby was also great, and as I said about Rochester, Bob just seems spot-on, forgetting very few lyrics, singing quite clearly (for those of us who already know the words, I guess), and in a great and energetic mood (except for two times in Des Moines when he was visibly ticked off at George...sure am glad I don't have to get that glare!). But another great show. I do enjoy the GA shows for the experience and having better chances of true fans up front, people who actually enjoy Can't Wait instead of talking through the whole thing, waiting to sing along to the only song they know, LARS. But at least we stood the whole show and didn't have any complaints about that. Fun two nights, and I'll hope to see him again in November!.....grave


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 Post subject: Re: Des Moines, Iowa - 22 August 2012 - LIVE SET LIST
PostPosted: Thu August 23rd, 2012, 17:05 GMT 

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My first Dylan show in nearly two years, and my first in my old hometown of Des Moines. I drove into town eager, but not busting-out-of-my-seat excited at the prospect of seeing Dylan again. Sure, I was glad, but I haven't been wild about the set lists this year, there wasn't must chance of a surprise, and those august shows always wind up seeming like warm-ups for the better shows in autumn.

BUt any doubts I had withered away when Bob launched into Pillbox - he tore this one up, and it was apparent from the start that he was actually SINGING THE SONG.

Now, I don't mean to say that he normally doesn't do that, but in the last few years it's often seemed as though he wasn't really thinking about the words he was singing so much as he was thinking about the noise they made. He'd find a rhythm with the organ and build the vocals around that. It worked very well - certainly more than the old upsinging - so I didn't have much to complain about, though it worked better on some songs than others (as with any other vocal technique).

Tonight, he seemed to be thinking about what he was saying again, telling a story instead of building a groove.

Not to mention the fact that he wasn't wearing a hat.

THe wolf man growl was present, but not all the time. Some lines he'd bark, and some he'd really SING.

After Pillbox it was center-stage for a wicked Long Black Coat and a nifty Things Have Changed, followed by the new Tangled arrangement with a lot of 1984 lines. That was interesting to hear - wonder what made him bust THOSE out? I wasn't loving the arrangement, though - the habit of breaking each line into two with a big pause in the middle didn't work for me that well.

The set in the middle - with four Love and Theft songs, was a bit more middling, with Bob plunking away on the grand piano. There are songs when the piano really works, and songs where you wish it was a lot lower in the mix. I was delighted to hear Visions of Johanna, though. I'm always delighted to hear that one. I remember remarking after Nashville 2001 how well he made that one fit in with the Love and Theft songs, and tonight, too, it didn't seem out of place sandwiched into a block of four of those.

The highlight of the evening, for me, was the slow, burning, evil Can't Wait. Loved it. The concert picked back up here from there, with a nice Simple Twist (Bob's lone guitar work of the night, and it was…interesting), a Thunder On the Mountain that never QUITE lifted off the ground, a terrific Thin Man, and a Rolling Stone that, for the first time in years, seemed to be telling a story.

10 years ago the song seemed a bit more sympathetic to me - in the many times Is saw it back then I identified two styles of singing it - in one he seemed like a street preacher coming across a drunk in the gutter, listing off their sins with remarkable accuracy, and then asking "how does it feel" without very vindictive. In the other he was like one of the angels in Wings of Desire who knows everything about a person, except how it feels to be them. In that one he seemed genuinely curious when he said "how does it feel."

Tonight's version was vicious. Tonight he was the bookie sitting in the little bar, laughing at you as come crawling in, having lost big one more time in the middle of your attempts to double-cross him, laughing at your misery and asking "how does it feel" right before he has some no-necked guy kick the hell out of you as you sit there on the barroom floor.

Watchtower was GREAT and Blowin (with hat added) was a lazy river stroll. All in all, a nice concert with definite highlights that suffered a bit from the predictable setlist. Made me more optimistic about the november shows!

For you Moines out there, my old evil folk duo, Scapegoat, will be hitting the open mic at Java Joe's tonight in order to take our rightful places as rulers of the earth and force you to shake your filthy hips and bring us slushees.


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 Post subject: Re: Des Moines, Iowa - 22 August 2012 - LIVE SET LIST
PostPosted: Thu August 23rd, 2012, 17:12 GMT 
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Awesome review Adam, thank you!

High water sounds about as strong in the vocals as it does on the record. Impressive!


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 Post subject: Re: Des Moines, Iowa - 22 August 2012 - LIVE SET LIST
PostPosted: Thu August 23rd, 2012, 18:11 GMT 
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He did "Jugglers and Clowns" verse from LARS, for first time in many years!!!!!!! :D :D 8)


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 Post subject: Re: Des Moines, Iowa - 22 August 2012 - LIVE SET LIST
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jcastro wrote:
He did "Jugglers and Clowns" verse from LARS, for first time in many years!!!!!!! :D :D 8)


Musta had a brain transplant to suddenly recall all those lyrics. :mrgreen:


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 Post subject: Re: Des Moines, Iowa - 22 August 2012 - LIVE SET LIST
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Johanna Parker wrote:
jcastro wrote:
He did "Jugglers and Clowns" verse from LARS, for first time in many years!!!!!!! :D :D 8)


Musta had a brain transplant to suddenly recall all those lyrics. :mrgreen:



As soon as he started it, Tony had a huge grin on his face!


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 Post subject: Re: Des Moines, Iowa - 22 August 2012 - LIVE SET LIST
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Yes, this was the first time I think I can recall hearing ALL the verses to LARS. Forgot to mention that. I seem to recall him switching off, doing either jugglers or "never understood" or something.


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 Post subject: Re: Des Moines, Iowa - 22 August 2012 - LIVE SET LIST
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AdamSelzer wrote:

a Rolling Stone that, for the first time in years, seemed to be telling a story.

10 years ago the song seemed a bit more sympathetic to me - in the many times Is saw it back then I identified two styles of singing it - in one he seemed like a street preacher coming across a drunk in the gutter, listing off their sins with remarkable accuracy, and then asking "how does it feel" without very vindictive. In the other he was like one of the angels in Wings of Desire who knows everything about a person, except how it feels to be them. In that one he seemed genuinely curious when he said "how does it feel."

Tonight's version was vicious. Tonight he was the bookie sitting in the little bar, laughing at you as come crawling in, having lost big one more time in the middle of your attempts to double-cross him, laughing at your misery and asking "how does it feel" right before he has some no-necked guy kick the hell out of you as you sit there on the barroom floor.


AdamSelzer- Your whole review was great-fun to read :D --esp. those scenarios up there for Rolling Stone.


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 Post subject: Re: Des Moines, Iowa - 22 August 2012 - LIVE SET LIST
PostPosted: Fri August 24th, 2012, 01:39 GMT 
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The guitar playing, both Charlie's and Stu's, sounds very different to me on Things Have Changed. It's completely dominated by triplets, almost a Spanish-sounding rhythm. This really brings out Donnie's steel guitar part, for one thing, and it also keeps the guitars further down in the mix, allowing Bob's vocals to come out.

George is a bit more contained as well, I think. I mean, he's doing the shuffle rhythm that pushes the song along, but he's doing it with a very light touch. If you know his playing, you know how special that is.

I just pulled up a couple of versions from Europe, and the triplet thing is definitely not there. It's new.

The bottom line is, I like it. A lot.


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 Post subject: Re: Des Moines, Iowa - 22 August 2012 - LIVE SET LIST
PostPosted: Fri August 24th, 2012, 02:38 GMT 
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thanks Adam for a great review! jeep writing!,,, bob in the heartland - wow!


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 Post subject: Re: Des Moines, Iowa - 22 August 2012 - LIVE SET LIST
PostPosted: Fri August 24th, 2012, 03:14 GMT 
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I was there.

I'm not sure why Bob introduced Stu as "on rhythm guitar" -- Stu did virtually all the leads.

Good show.


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 Post subject: Re: Des Moines, Iowa - 22 August 2012 - LIVE SET LIST
PostPosted: Fri August 24th, 2012, 03:17 GMT 
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bobschool wrote:
thanks Adam for a great review! keep writing!,,, bob in the heartland - wow!


yea that's what i meant - or great writing done while in a jeep! :P


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 Post subject: Re: Des Moines, Iowa - 22 August 2012 - LIVE SET LIST
PostPosted: Fri August 24th, 2012, 03:55 GMT 
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movin_after_midnight wrote:
The guitar playing, both Charlie's and Stu's, sounds very different to me on Things Have Changed. It's completely dominated by triplets, almost a Spanish-sounding rhythm. This really brings out Donnie's steel guitar part, for one thing, and it also keeps the guitars further down in the mix, allowing Bob's vocals to come out.

George is a bit more contained as well, I think. I mean, he's doing the shuffle rhythm that pushes the song along, but he's doing it with a very light touch. If you know his playing, you know how special that is.

I just pulled up a couple of versions from Europe, and the triplet thing is definitely not there. It's new.

The bottom line is, I like it. A lot.

Good insight movin'. Thanks for the post.


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