Expecting Rain

Unfortunately the musical producers that are bringing Bob Dylan to Brazil (Time 4 Fun) are tricking when they sales tickets.
Here in São Paulo, the lady at the Credicard Hall ticket Office showed me a sit and sold me another place not so good obviously. I could see the audience map some days latter when I was buying another ticket for a friend at a different ticket office at Fnac, with extra taxes… 20 per cent plus.
The other tricky way is to announce that the cheapest sits were sold out when it was not true. Two days latter you could find the cheapest sits again…
This is happening at Rio, São Paulo and Brasília.
I know that it's not Bob responsibility, but I write here like an aware! Probably a naive aware. If they are tricking the audience in a very impolite way you can imagine that they can try gambling Dylan too or… Did Dylan offers the show costing a closed price and give to them liberty to get profits as best they can do?

I'm so angry that I'm thinking to ask my money back and give up to see Dylan. I bought a central place and they gave to me a lateral place at the same sector, but not the place I asked for.
It's not a good feeling to being tricked.

There are seating charts on the internet, so you can make an informed choice of what you buy. You say she showed you a seat, so you must have seen a chart when you bought? I'm not sure I understand what you are implying.

Also, it is not unusual that a capacity of tickets sells out and they release more later.... ticketmaster is big on that.

For a 2006 show I was told the cheap seats were not available, at the show all those upper balcony seats were empty, so apparently they didn't release them until the more expensive seats sold out (it was a huge venue). A crappy way to do business, if you ask me (if that's indeed what happened).

Here there is no chart on the internet. A friend of mine said that she bought ticket from the internet and she had no access to the chart. When I was at the office I saw the chart, but there was a glass between me and the lady and it was impossible to read the number of the sit. So, that's the reason why I asked so many times for the lady. "Are you sure?".

Johanna, Can you see the number of the seats on the charts you sent to me?
You can see the sector, it's ok, hight.
I'm angry because they offered me a particular seat and sold me another one.

Good luck with all this Carolina!
I feel and understand your frustration.
Bob will wipe it away.

Thank you.
I did a mistake at the first post. I wrote "sit" and I should have written "seat". Sorry.

Hey, at least you didn't write 'shit'. You're good, don't worry about it.

Oh! To sit on the shit??? No way!

This is a kind of robbery. It happened with a friend of mine. She only had money to buy the cheapest seat, but as they said that there was no more cheapest seats, she asked money to her family to go to the show.
Some days latter there was cheapest places available.
Unfortunately. Crappy way to do business. Can be a disorganized way to do business. Both ways don't take care of who is paying to see the show. Me and you.

Today I went to the Credicard Hall trying to solve this situation and there is not much they can do, all the good seats are already sold. The gentle guy said to me that the place I got is a veeeeeeeeery good one.

I would like to know:

If you buy a ticket to go to see Dylan probably you will buy several days before the show.
If you need to give up two weeks before the show, can you have your money back?

I'm asking this question for you because here they say that you have seven days after the date you bought to ask your money back. But I bought with one month in advance and now we are two weeks before the show I considered to give up but they said that to give the money back was impossible.

Well... I payed more that US500 for the ticket. I got a different place that I chosen and now I can't have the money back even if I wanted to buy another ticket at another sector or another day or even at another city. Is that right?

I'm not complaining, I'm just asking if it's normal or if it's just here that such things happens.

Wow. Sounds like you paid a lot. Must be a good seat.
Well, what's done is done. Usually sales are final, but every venue is different. You probably bought it from an agency or a scalper if you paid that much. Good luck trying to unload it. I suggest that you get there early to try and sell it and be mentally prepared to take a loss.

Thanks for your help.
I didn't bought from an agency or a scalper. It's the price. 900reais is more than US500.
You can check it out http://dylanesco.com/precos-dos-shows-de-bob-dylan-no-brasil/ It's in portuguese but you can see the numbers and think that 1Real is US$1,8.
And yes! I bought a ticket at VIP sector for April22nd and another ticket at poltrona 1 sector for April21st.
I will see Dylan both days at Sao Paolo.

When Dylan and his band came at 2008 the prices were the same little fortune, but the concert was associated with a hi-society magazine (I became surprised about that) and the producers were very polite. As I know they had no problems. Everybody said that it was very very very expensive, a Senator asked to Dylan to make a free-show and a lot of things happened, but nobody was tricked.

they charged you $500?!

I thought you inadvertly added an extra zero, but I just checked. Wow, Carolina. Are all concerts this expensive there?

I'm sorry I've got dyslexia. 1Dollar is 1,8Reais.


Unfortunately yes. And T4F is the most important producer company.
Looks like they are alone. Do you know what I mean?

Yes and They sold a different seat that I chosen.

Hopefully a BETTER seat?

im going to see him in buenos aires.. and in buenos aires the more expensive ticket was at 900 argentinian pesos.. that is near 250 dollars..

maybe is because the venue is smaller.. 3.300 persons.. but he is going to play 4 times there..

how much people can enter in the place you are going to see him?

Sao Paulo Creditcard Hall apparently has a capacity of 7,500.
Hi Miguel!

AJ Weberman said it years ago - "Dylan is breadhead man!" or just maybe the scumbag promoters are ripping you off - the answer? either just don't go, or riot, or make such a public fuss that questions have to get answered.... you won't find the answer here, though you may well find some sympathy. Ticket sales have long been a source of corrupt revenue but those prices are insane - don't pay them! Wouldn't it be cheaper to fly to the usa for a gig?

They certainly look like La-La Land prices. Some shows have sold out though, so the cash is apparently flowing, which promoters love.

I was thinking about it.
Not going to the show.
I thought to see Dylan at Montreux for example.
But as I can't have my money back and because I can't have my vacation on time, I have to pay that little fortune to see Dylan, without the glamour of seeing Dylan at the most important music festival in the world.

At 2008 we payed more that US$500 to see him. It was a little scandal because it was the most expensive show of the São Paulo history (Please, forgive me to write that. I don't think like that but a lot of people from here does.) "A singer with no voice, no sympathy, that sings music you don't understand. And the people pay to see him just because he is a legend and because he is a old man and probably you will see him no more". like slimtimslide said.
After 2008 the music producers saw that everything is marketing business. So the prices to see any important artist became very high. João Gilberto last year made a concert even more expensive, but he is 80 years old.
There is a lot of good fans from Brazil that will go to see Dylan at Argentina because it's cheaper and there is a lot of people that will see Dylan here because is glamourous. I mean just because it's glamourous.

There is a lot of contradiction feelings about to pay a little fortune to see a Dylan's concert, but as I could make this money honestly and as because I deserve to have a good musical time I decided to pay. It doesn't mean that I agree with this abusive prices and so on.

Maybe for Dylan is a very good opportunity to play for some few that really love him here in Brazil.
At 1998 for example he played at bar Opinião em Porto Alegre. A small place for 1.600 persons. The producers, as I know, didn't have profits but they are proud to have made this show. I wasn't there but I've read a beautiful post about this night.
I'm not saying that the producers don't need profits. It's business! I believe in a good way to do business without trickery.