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 Post subject: Re: Track Talk: Cry A While
PostPosted: Fri May 29th, 2009, 03:44 GMT 
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great tune and a personal favorite. some very fine blues.


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 Post subject: Re: Track Talk: Cry A While
PostPosted: Fri May 29th, 2009, 03:52 GMT 

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"I'm trying to be meek and mild"
I'm looking for that sweet fat that sticks to your ribs."
"Your funeral, my trial."

So many now-classic lines that I think of all the time in my day to day.
I thinnk it reminds me a lot of Pledging My Time for some reason and is certainly
the bastard son of Million Miles.
It really does suck that he moved the rhythm to your standard blues
because it's so f'n good the original way.
Though 05 has its good showings,the version I offer is one of the last of 2003.
2003 has so many great ones to choose from. But this one is special.
A man possessed. fantastic harp solo.

Sheffield Nov. 3/03:


http://www.sendspace.com/file/cjt0ss


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 Post subject: Re: Track Talk: Cry A While
PostPosted: Fri May 29th, 2009, 03:57 GMT 

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Great version! Thanks for posting it. MEZ


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 Post subject: Re: Track Talk: Cry A While
PostPosted: Fri May 29th, 2009, 08:07 GMT 

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The songs structure and tempo change are inspired by Vernita Blues by Sleepy John Estes.


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 Post subject: Re: Track Talk: Cry A While
PostPosted: Fri May 29th, 2009, 13:08 GMT 
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Great song. This sums up L&T for me. It's also the icing on a nice juicy cake


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 Post subject: Re: Track Talk: Cry A While
PostPosted: Fri May 29th, 2009, 17:58 GMT 
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huck wrote:
The songs structure and tempo change are inspired by Vernita Blues by Sleepy John Estes.


Yeah, I can kinda hear it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MitU9Cy0iJ0


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 Post subject: Re: Track Talk: Cry A While
PostPosted: Fri May 29th, 2009, 21:48 GMT 

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I do love this Dylan song, especially the way it sounds like a shambles where the lines all fall into each other, and then tumble through into clarity for the chorus.

It sounds like a great old blues number, but it's not quite clear which one it is, which means for Dylan it must be a huge success.


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 Post subject: Re: Track Talk: Cry A While
PostPosted: Fri May 29th, 2009, 21:54 GMT 

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killer tune. the grammy version is one of the best bob on tv ever.

go find a great capture for your shelf at http://dvdylan.com


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 Post subject: Re: Track Talk: Cry A While
PostPosted: Sun April 29th, 2012, 00:27 GMT 
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The new start-stop arrangement kicks.

http://soundcloud.com/user2958643/bd201 ... ry-a-while

If only he'd be this creative with the songs that are over 30 years old... breath some life into them.


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 Post subject: Re: Track Talk: Cry A While
PostPosted: Sun April 29th, 2012, 00:39 GMT 
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i have to disagree...i'm a big fan of Cry a while, and the last rendition almost made me cry a while....

but i support the spirit of change!


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 Post subject: Re: Track Talk: Cry A While
PostPosted: Sun April 29th, 2012, 02:49 GMT 
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I like the album version but throughout the NET it has had moments when it has not risen to its glory... this arrangement breathes new life into it for me. But I think you're on to something, many will find it less than desirable.


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 Post subject: Re: Track Talk: Cry A While
PostPosted: Sun April 29th, 2012, 03:28 GMT 
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marker wrote:
"I'm trying to be meek and mild"
I'm looking for that sweet fat that sticks to your ribs."
"Your funeral, my trial."

So many now-classic lines that I think of all the time in my day to day.
I thinnk it reminds me a lot of Pledging My Time for some reason and is certainly
the bastard son of Million Miles.
It really does suck that he moved the rhythm to your standard blues
because it's so f'n good the original way.
Though 05 has its good showings,the version I offer is one of the last of 2003.
2003 has so many great ones to choose from. But this one is special.
A man possessed. fantastic harp solo.

Sheffield Nov. 3/03:


http://www.sendspace.com/file/cjt0ss

The link is dead. Anyone have a light?


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 Post subject: Re: Track Talk: Cry A While
PostPosted: Sun April 29th, 2012, 04:01 GMT 

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I am also one who finds this 'new' arrangement irritating....boringly irritating. To compare this version below to what he's just come up with is a ludicrous comparison. The song lacks teeth now. Altering arrangements works for some songs, sometimes for the better... But this song's structure simply doesn't allow for anything but the L&T version, I'm sorry. Some experiments are successful, some aren't. This one isn't IMO.

And I have incredible proof:

Zurich Switzerland (I was mistaken above)
November 3 2003
http://www.sendspace.com/file/vkoxk0


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 Post subject: Re: Track Talk: Cry A While
PostPosted: Sat May 5th, 2012, 04:55 GMT 
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marker wrote:
I am also one who finds this 'new' arrangement irritating....boringly irritating. To compare this version below to what he's just come up with is a ludicrous comparison. The song lacks teeth now. Altering arrangements works for some songs, sometimes for the better... But this song's structure simply doesn't allow for anything but the L&T version, I'm sorry. Some experiments are successful, some aren't. This one isn't IMO.

And I have incredible proof:

Zurich Switzerland (I was mistaken above)
November 3 2003
http://www.sendspace.com/file/vkoxk0

What about the new, new arrangement, South American style?


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 Post subject: Re: Track Talk: Cry A While
PostPosted: Sat May 5th, 2012, 06:38 GMT 

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CRY A WHILE

Nigel Williamson

Love And Theft must be the funniest album of Dylan’s entire career. The humour is there in almost every song with throwaway lines such as “Jump into the wagon love, throw your panties overboard”, “I’m sitting on my watch, so I can be on time”, “I’m no pig without a wig”, “Freddie or not, here I come”, and, best of all, in Cry A While, “Last night across the alley there was a pounding on the wall, it must have been Don Pasquale making a 2am booty call”.

Brian Hinton

Another electric blues that starts like a slowed down Rainy Day Women #12 & 35. Dylan rasps, the drums and bass thump, and an amped-up guitar plays exactly the right notes, like early Taj Mahal. The rhythm seems to stop and start and the band put not a foot wrong. More gangster (or even gangsta) chic, a tough and masculine world straight out of Raymond Chandler where everyone is backstroking someone else, and - in the best joke of the whole album - a pounding on the wall “must have been Don Pasquale making a 2am booty call”.

Oliver Trager

A straight, late Dylan blues that would have been quite at home on his previous doom-and-gloom-laden album, Time Out Of Mind, Cry A While is a rhythm-shifting pile-driver harking back to classical acoustic country music, borrowing its menacing bass line from Tommy Johnson’s late-1920s delta standard, Big Road Blues. At the same time, the song references Dylan’s own guitar-playing past with the turnaround lick employed in Leopard-Skin Pill-Box Hat and his longevity when he sings, “I don’t carry dead weight, I’m no flash in the pan.” And for all his intellectualism, Dylan shows he can be as ribald as they come in Cry A While, snorting lines that could have fallen off a Redd Foxx party record, “Don Pasquale makin’ a 2am booty call.”

Dylan began performing Cry A While almost immediately after its Love And Theft release during the fall 2001 Never Ending Tour that first showcased songs from the album.Finally, it was the Love And Theft song he chose to perform at the 2002 Grammy Awards ceremonies, a rendition praised by Bonnie Raitt as “perhaps the funkiest performance by a white guy that I have ever seen. He’s at the top of his game.”

Clinton Heylin

Published lyric/s: Lyrics 04.

Known studio recordings: Clinton Recording Studios, New York City, 18 May 2001 – 2 takes.[L+T – tk.2]

First known performance: Sacramento Memorial Auditorium CA, 10 October 2001.

“The old Chess records, the Sun records. I think that's my favorite sound for a record. I like the intensity. The sound is uncluttered. There's power and suspense. The whole vibration feels like it could be coming from inside your mind. It's alive. It's right there.” Dylan to Bill Flanagan, 2009

For the tenth song recorded at the Love And Theft sessions, Dylan returned to his “favourite sound”, the one that came out of 2120 South Michigan Avenue, Chicago – fabled locale of Chess Studios when they had the likes of Chuck Berry, Sonny Boy Williamson, Howlin' Wolf, Otis Span and Willie Dixon recording for them. In fact, the template for Cry A While featured no less than three of these gentlemen. Otis Span played piano and Willie Dixon plucked the bass on the March 1958 Sonny Boy Williamson session that resulted in Your Funeral And My Trial.

As with the song that started this whole appropriation-as-art-form conceit – Mississippi – Dylan directly cops to his musical debt in the final couplet:

“I might need a good lawyer, could be your funeral, my trial / Well, I cried for you, not it's your turn, you can cry awhile.”

And, like those guys, Dylan was determined to cut Cry A While in a couple of takes, maximum. Having conjured up usable first takes of both Po' Boy and High Water (For Charley Patton) in the last couple of days, the man was on a roll and, sure enough, he got the song on the second take, without a single “roll over”. Leonard would have been proud of him.

The song's conceptual debt did not, however, come from Chicago, though it could have come from any number of folk whose imprint was all over this album. I Cried For You (Now It's Your Turn To Cry Over Me) was the kind of standard that was bound to attract – and did – the likes of Billie Holiday, Bing Crosby and Louis Armstrong. But it took Dylan to see that such a title suggested an electric blues, not a jazz standard.

Just to reinforce his stylistic switch, Dylan even dropped in a line from The Dope Head Blues, a 1927 recording by his old friends, Lonnie Johnson and Victoria Spivey (“Feel like a fighting rooster, feeling better than I ever felt”); and instituted (and kept) a tempo change at the start of it all, as if he had yet to decide which way the song should go. At the same time, he recovered his sense of humour, sending up the plot to a Donizetti opera, with, “It must have been Don Pasquale making a two am booty call.” He also satirized America's obsession with weight: “I’m longing for that sweet fat that sticks to your ribs”; and perhaps dug into one of his Marx Brothers boxed sets for the line “Well, you bet on a horse, and it ran the wrong way.” All things considered, Cry A While stands as the best of the songs on Dylan's 2001 album bearing a Chicago postmark.


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 Post subject: Re: Track Talk: Cry A While
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bet you didn't know that is a fan of italian comic opera!!!

http://www.metoperafamily.org/metopera/ ... spx?id=121


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 Post subject: Re: Track Talk: Cry A While
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 Post subject: Re: Track Talk: Cry A While
PostPosted: Sat May 5th, 2012, 13:30 GMT 
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A very nice video, raging_glory. Thanks for the link.


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 Post subject: Re: Track Talk: Cry A While
PostPosted: Sat May 5th, 2012, 13:40 GMT 
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Yes good memories. And then one day you find ten years have got behind...


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