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 Post subject: Re: Sister songs & Subliminal Sequels
PostPosted: Mon April 26th, 2010, 17:36 GMT 
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Empty Skies wrote:
For a long time I didn't think much of Love Sick. I set against it very early due to an adverse reaction to (what I construed to be) an overly self-conscious lyrical reference to Mr Tambourine Man:

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I’m walking through streets that are dead
Walking, walking with you in my head
My feet are so tired, my brain is so wired
And the clouds are weeping


Quote:
Though I know that evenin’s empire has returned into sand
Vanished from my hand
Left me blindly here to stand but still not sleeping
My weariness amazes me, I’m branded on my feet
I have no one to meet
And the ancient empty street’s too dead for dreaming


The way the guitar riff is buried on the album track may have been more of a factor. In any case, I got over it.


I thought that too - though it made me like the song more rather than less (I guess it comes down to how you define overdoing it).


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 Post subject: Re: Sister songs & Subliminal Sequels
PostPosted: Mon April 26th, 2010, 20:02 GMT 

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It's kind of pertinent (and I'm reluctant to start a thread entitled Instances when your I-Pod Shuffle - or Playlist Ordered in Terms of Size, Date or Name - has unknowingly created an Overarching Narrative out of Dylan Songs), but I was listening to Hurricane and it was promptly and alphabetically followed by I Shall Be Released - and it was as if Ruben Carter as Buddha had been given centre stage (a ten foot cell) after his life story so far had been told, cuing up a heartelt soliloquising.


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 Post subject: Re: Sister songs & Subliminal Sequels
PostPosted: Mon April 26th, 2010, 21:04 GMT 
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Bob's first album Bob Dylan _ named after himself _ contains the most references to Jesus by name of any of his albums.


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 Post subject: Re: Sister songs & Subliminal Sequels
PostPosted: Thu May 20th, 2010, 21:16 GMT 
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North Country Blues

Then the shaft was soon shut
And more work was cut
And the fire in the air, it felt frozen
’Til a man come to speak
And he said in one week
That number eleven was closin’

They complained in the East
They are paying too high
They say that your ore ain’t worth digging
That it’s much cheaper down
In the South American towns
Where the miners work almost for nothing

So the mining gates locked
And the red iron rotted
And the room smelled heavy from drinking
Where the sad, silent song
Made the hour twice as long
As I waited for the sun to go sinking


Workingman's Blues #2

There's an evenin' haze settlin' over the town
Starlight by the edge of the creek
The buyin' power of the proletariat's gone down
Money's gettin' shallow and weak
The place I love best is a sweet memory
It's a new path that we trod
They say low wages are a reality
If we want to compete abroad

My cruel weapons have been put on the shelf
Come sit down on my knee
You are dearer to me than myself
As you yourself can see
I'm listenin' to the steel rails hum
Got both eyes tight shut
Just sitting here trying to keep the hunger from
Creeping it's way into my gut


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 Post subject: Re: Sister songs & Subliminal Sequels
PostPosted: Thu March 8th, 2012, 20:51 GMT 
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I Feel A Change Comin' On > The Times They Are A-Changin' > Things Have Changed


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 Post subject: Re: Sister songs & Subliminal Sequels
PostPosted: Wed September 5th, 2012, 16:28 GMT 
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Long And Wasted Years (please hear it sung-spoke before judging it) is a beautiful coda to Brownsville Girl.
Roll On, John, especially with the unexpected emergence of slave ships, recalls Blind Willie McTell.


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 Post subject: Re: Sister songs & Subliminal Sequels
PostPosted: Thu September 6th, 2012, 03:32 GMT 

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oh yes..i too have always considered YOU'RE A BIG GIRL NOW to be a reflection of JUST LIKE A WOMAN...

and how about totally rewritten/renamed songs, such as STANDING IN THE DOORWAY/DREAMN OF YOU
TIGHT CONNECTION TO MY HEART/SOMEONE GOT A HOLD OF MY HEART
Marching to the CITY/TIL I FELL IN LOVE WITH YOU....


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 Post subject: Re: Sister songs & Subliminal Sequels
PostPosted: Thu September 6th, 2012, 08:02 GMT 
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I've always thought "Boots of Spanish Leather" and "Farewell".
Both have similar themes of a lover leaving.. Even on the Witmark recording of "Farewell" Bob starts off singing 'oh I'm sailing.." before singing the right lyrics.


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 Post subject: Re: Sister songs & Subliminal Sequels
PostPosted: Thu September 6th, 2012, 09:07 GMT 

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These words and thoughts are coming from the same brain, there are bound to be similarities in certain songs and themes. Dylan may do that conciously, maybe not.


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 Post subject: Re: Sister songs & Subliminal Sequels
PostPosted: Fri October 5th, 2012, 22:10 GMT 
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I had a thought today: Señor could be a conversation between, or the thoughts of, the narrator and the "man in the corner" in Isis while they're traveling.


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 Post subject: Re: Sister songs & Subliminal Sequels
PostPosted: Fri October 5th, 2012, 22:31 GMT 
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I was playing "Not Dark Yet" on my guitar the other day (in Dropped-C tuning, I think) and just spontaneously segued into "It's All Over Now, Baby Blue." I found the same mood or tone in both songs: something coming to an end....


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 Post subject: Re: Sister songs & Subliminal Sequels
PostPosted: Fri October 5th, 2012, 22:39 GMT 
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Mister.Jones wrote:
Santa is mentioned on several different tracks on Christmas In the Heart. And the interconnectedness of the overarching theme to me conveys the ever-present sense that ''Santa loves us all'' ... particularly girls and boys whom are good.


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 Post subject: Re: Sister songs & Subliminal Sequels
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Mister.Jones wrote:
Santa is mentioned on several different tracks on Christmas In the Heart. And the interconnectedness of the overarching theme to me conveys the ever-present sense that ''Santa loves us all'' ... particularly girls and boys whom are good.


Dylan signed a special contract before that album which apparently gave most of the royalties to charity. Speaking in a heavy southern drawl the lawyer said, "Note the inclusion of the standard insanaty clause, which states that if either party is believed to be insane the deal is off."

Dylan replied," Don't worry about me I have always believed in Sanata."

Sorry!


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 Post subject: Re: Sister songs & Subliminal Sequels
PostPosted: Fri October 5th, 2012, 23:08 GMT 
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Bob's oeuvre actually works pretty well if you assume all the songs are about the same woman.


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 Post subject: Re: Sister songs & Subliminal Sequels
PostPosted: Fri October 5th, 2012, 23:23 GMT 
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Another pair of 'sister songs':

'To Ramona' and 'Like a Rolling Stone'.

They're radically different takes on the same theme: a woman trapped by society's expectations into betraying her true self in favor of an artificial, slavish existence. They're really just the same song, except that one is aggressive and accusatory while the other is gentle and forgiving, even empathic.


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 Post subject: Re: Sister songs & Subliminal Sequels
PostPosted: Fri October 5th, 2012, 23:24 GMT 
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Farewell Angelina and It's All Over Now, Baby Blue


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 Post subject: Re: Sister songs & Subliminal Sequels
PostPosted: Sat October 6th, 2012, 00:28 GMT 

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maybe there are 'sequels'...if so, maybe, maybe a couple....i think it far more likely that the same metaphors/similies and tweaking of them seems the more logical answer.


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 Post subject: Re: Sister songs & Subliminal Sequels
PostPosted: Sat October 6th, 2012, 01:58 GMT 
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thisisjohn wrote:
I had a thought today: Señor could be a conversation between, or the thoughts of, the narrator and the "man in the corner" in Isis while they're traveling.


What a great thought! I completely get that.

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Farewell Angelina and It's All Over Now, Baby Blue


I've always thought this too.

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 Post subject: Re: Sister songs & Subliminal Sequels
PostPosted: Sat October 6th, 2012, 06:57 GMT 
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I've always seen Ain't Talkin as an older, wiser, and more embittered man taking another trip down Desolation Row.


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 Post subject: Re: Sister songs & Subliminal Sequels
PostPosted: Sat October 6th, 2012, 07:03 GMT 
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"Forever Young" / "Lord Protect My Child".


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 Post subject: Re: Sister songs & Subliminal Sequels
PostPosted: Sat October 6th, 2012, 07:07 GMT 
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 Post subject: Re: Sister songs & Subliminal Sequels
PostPosted: Sat October 6th, 2012, 07:29 GMT 

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Knocking on Heaven's Door and Trying to Get to Heaven.


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 Post subject: Re: Sister songs & Subliminal Sequels
PostPosted: Mon October 8th, 2012, 22:10 GMT 
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 Post subject: Re: Sister songs & Subliminal Sequels
PostPosted: Tue October 9th, 2012, 00:07 GMT 
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"Farewell Angelina" and "Angelina!" It's the return-- he comes back!


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 Post subject: Re: Sister songs & Subliminal Sequels
PostPosted: Tue October 9th, 2012, 00:53 GMT 
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