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 Post subject: Re: Track Talk 230 Honest With Me
PostPosted: Wed December 22nd, 2010, 17:25 GMT 
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Every performance from Spring 2003 through the end of the 2004 campaigns were very good. The Freddy and Larry had it down as did Stu and Larry. Never a disappointment.


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PostPosted: Wed December 22nd, 2010, 18:31 GMT 
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Don't always love this one, but when it's hot, it's hot. I agree the 2003-04 versions are the best. Then again, I've become a huge fan of the Freddy Koella period as of late.


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PostPosted: Wed December 22nd, 2010, 19:49 GMT 
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"I'm here to create the new imperial empire"

So when does he begin? Or has he already started?


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 Post subject: Re: Track Talk 230 Honest With Me
PostPosted: Wed December 22nd, 2010, 20:49 GMT 

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The song is a hoot, im stark naked but i dont care, going off into the woods am huntin bear! Says it all.


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Cleveland, 14.7.2007
http://www.sendspace.com/file/g0c5nf

Warszawa, 7.6.2008 (with a great instrumental verse based on the riff from "You Really Got Me")
http://www.sendspace.com/file/x30imw


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Cleveland is fantastic Truth! You're really knockin em out of the park in this thread:)
And may I say that based on the evidence of this thread...IMO Denny Freeman owns this song:)


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 Post subject: Re: Track Talk 230 Honest With Me
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That "imperial" is otiose, I think. Just a moment's laziness in an otherwise tightly written and poetically-argued song. We don't have kingly kingdoms, tyrannical tyrannies or democratic democracies - so why an imperial empire? Though I will grant certain empires are less imperial than others - evening's empire, for instance.

What is effective here, though, is the conflation of the intensely personal (the private relations of lovers or families) with the language of brute politics. During Bye and Bye, after singing of love's sugar-coated rhymes, the threat to establish suzerainty by civil war is shocking. Note too the close proximity in Bye and Bye of the compromised parents (mad and sad) to this "political" outburst. Similar in HWM - our imperial stanza also contains that ambiguous reflection about parental advice. Floater's father is like some "feudal lord". Authority is hard-won, absolute - until overthrow.

From where I was standing the Hop Farm performance was demented and thrilling. Waves of brute noise. Sometimes Dylan can take a band or a song much further "out there" than a casual audience expects. I suspect the Mumford crowd found this song just a bit rebarbative.


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 Post subject: Re: Track Talk 230 Honest With Me
PostPosted: Sun January 2nd, 2011, 17:06 GMT 
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The song is a hoot, im stark naked but i dont care, going off into the woods am huntin bear! Says it all.

From Dylan's website:

"I’m stark naked, but I don’t care
I’m going off into the woods, I’m huntin’ bare
"

This makes it all the more hilarious to me... the use of the homonym to catch you off guard... it can make sense either way but its more than a rhyming scheme... if you're paying attention, he's putting an image out there for the listener to consider and its not the big furry creature with teeth. :lol:


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PostPosted: Sun April 29th, 2012, 04:38 GMT 
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The new arrangement is interesting and it appears the band is having fun... its like Bob has regained his mojo... a great year is on the horizon and a new album is coming... can it possibly get better than this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crq9Zeaa ... ure=relmfu


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PostPosted: Mon April 30th, 2012, 01:38 GMT 
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well, that video just scarred me for life... wow.


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 Post subject: Re: Track Talk 230 Honest With Me
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Terrifyingly brilliant, beautiful, and good... its like waking up next to a super-model. After the experience you aren't sure you deserve it but its so-o-o-o-o wonderful you're in no hurry to leave and you savor the moment for what it is... a gift from the very hand of God!


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 Post subject: Re: Track Talk 230 Honest With Me
PostPosted: Mon April 30th, 2012, 02:25 GMT 
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Terrifyingly brilliant, beautiful, and good... its like waking up next to a super-model. After the experience you aren't sure you deserve it but its so-o-o-o-o wonderful you're in no hurry to leave and you savor the moment for what it is... a gift from the very hand of God!



um his guitar playing is better than his dancing...


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 Post subject: Re: Track Talk 230 Honest With Me
PostPosted: Mon April 30th, 2012, 08:44 GMT 

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HONEST WITH ME

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Another Chicago style blues, and indeed set there, though rarely do the likes of Muddy Waters sing about a woman with a face 'like a teddy bear'. More medicine show imagery – “the Siamese twins are comin' to town” – or is this warring Tweedledee and Tweedledum again? There is one joke that you get only if you read the song in Lyrics. “I'm going off into the woods, I'm hunting bear” is re-spelt “hunting bare”, picking up the “stark naked” of the previous line. This new song plunders wholesale lines from an Old Civil War ballad supporting the south. And the Armageddon awaiting the USA is again prefigured: “when I left home the sky split open wide.” “Some things are too terrible to be true.”

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A confrontational, me-to-you song in the spirit of mid-1960s excess, Honest With Me features some Michael Bloomfield-style guitar pyrotechnics courtesy of Dylan right and left-hand guitar men from the latest editions of The Never Ending Tour, most notably Charlie sexton and Larry Campbell, who did wonders with Honest With Me when Dylan began performing it as an encore in his fall 2001 concerts in support of Love And Theft.

In that slot, Honest With Me was the uptempo highlight of the show’s finale segment and featured passionate slide work by Campbell and the fury of a man in an ugly world. “Well, I’m stranded in the city that never sleeps, “ Dylan snarls, “Some of these women they just give me the creeps.”

As with some of the songs in his back pocket, Dylan draws on the notion of memory to highlight Honest With Me. In Mr Tambourine Man, he wanted “all memory and fate driven deep beneath the waves” so he could “forget about today until tomorrow.” More recently, on Million Miles, he was “drifting in and out of dreamless sleep, throwing all my memories in a ditch so deep.” And still, the past brings nothing but pain. “These memories I got they can strangle a man,” he sings on Honest With Me, because “some things are too terrible to be true.”

On an album dripping with the deep south, Dylan then defiantly quotes the traditional Civil war song, I’m A Good Old Rebel, “I’m not sorry for nothing I’ve done / I’m glad I fought, I only wish we’d won.”

And he has not given up the fight, “I’m here to create a new imperial empire,” he proclaims, “I’m gonna do whatever circumstances require.”

He will even try a sly seduction, “You say my eyes are pretty and my smile is nice,” he offers, “Well, I’ll sell it to ya at a reduced price.”

Poking deeper for reference, fans of Dr Junichi Saga’s book, Confessions Of A Yakuza, might recognise how the original’s “I won’t come any more if it bothers you” becomes, in Dylan’s song, “Some things are too terrible to be true / I won’t come here no more if it bothers you.”

A final note – the version of Honest With Me released on Grammy Nominees 2002 was recorded by Dylan and his band at the rehearsal for the show.


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 Post subject: Re: Track Talk 230 Honest With Me
PostPosted: Mon April 30th, 2012, 10:15 GMT 

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Brian Hinton wrote:
There is one joke that you get only if you read the song in Lyrics. “I'm going off into the woods, I'm hunting bear” is re-spelt “hunting bare”, picking up the “stark naked” of the previous line.

Funny, I never found I had to read along to "get" this.


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 Post subject: Re: Track Talk 230 Honest With Me
PostPosted: Mon April 30th, 2012, 10:26 GMT 
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The Mighty Monkey Of Mim wrote:
Brian Hinton wrote:
There is one joke that you get only if you read the song in Lyrics. “I'm going off into the woods, I'm hunting bear” is re-spelt “hunting bare”, picking up the “stark naked” of the previous line.

Funny, I never found I had to read along to "get" this.


No, exactly - unless you're the kind of idiot who enjoys prime-time TV humour, it's so bloody obvious it's untrue.


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 Post subject: Re: Track Talk 230 Honest With Me
PostPosted: Thu November 29th, 2012, 20:24 GMT 

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I've just gotta shine a light on the new arrangement of this, one of my all-time favorite Dylan rockers....

What a wild new twist on this one!!!!
And i also gotta throw some love to the best show I've heard from this year:

Bad Mergentheim Germany
July 6 2012
http://www.sendspace.com/file/pscgwq

What do y'all think of this version???


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 Post subject: Re: Track Talk 230 Honest With Me
PostPosted: Fri November 30th, 2012, 10:41 GMT 
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Here is a very good version from 2007, good video too. I love George's drumming on this one and the stabbing groove Bob brings the band into on the last verse. You can see Donnie getting on board and the whole band following. This is why i love Bob Dylan.

http://youtu.be/axri6WXdLZo

In relation to Nellie's post, the quote at the end about them recording this for the grammys, is that true or is it a mix up with Cry A While. If its true i would love to hear it, can anyone help?


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 Post subject: Re: Track Talk 230 Honest With Me
PostPosted: Fri November 30th, 2012, 13:16 GMT 
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Here is a very good version from 2007, good video too. I love George's drumming on this one and the stabbing groove Bob brings the band into on the last verse. You can see Donnie getting on board and the whole band following. This is why i love Bob Dylan.

http://youtu.be/axri6WXdLZo

In relation to Nellie's post, the quote at the end about them recording this for the grammys, is that true or is it a mix up with Cry A While. If its true i would love to hear it, can anyone help?


I just looked and there is a release on Amazon that has Honest With Me.

http://www.amazon.com/Grammy-Nominees-2 ... B00005Y1F7


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 Post subject: Re: Track Talk 230 Honest With Me
PostPosted: Fri November 30th, 2012, 17:34 GMT 
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Thank you Ragin, after doing a search on Grooveshark there is a link for the Grammy album but the Honest with me on there is just the album version. I think we would know about it if there were two differant recording of it. I would love to hear alternative takes for this song, and all of love and theft for that matter.


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 Post subject: Re: Track Talk 230 Honest With Me
PostPosted: Fri November 30th, 2012, 19:11 GMT 
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Terrifyingly brilliant, beautiful, and good... its like waking up next to a super-model. After the experience you aren't sure you deserve it but its so-o-o-o-o wonderful you're in no hurry to leave and you savor the moment for what it is... a gift from the very hand of God!



um his guitar playing is better than his dancing...

As well it should be... especially when he leads!


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