Expecting Rain

Go to main page
It is currently Tue May 21st, 2013, 21:04 GMT

All times are UTC [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 901 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23 ... 37  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Re: Bob Dylan - The Asia Series
PostPosted: Thu September 29th, 2011, 21:50 GMT 
Promethium Member
User avatar

Joined: Mon December 6th, 2004, 07:22 GMT
Posts: 15018
Location: Scarlet Town
I think it's friggin lame the press keep coming in here where we just shoot ideas back and forth and hash out what we think....now I really don't feel like posting anything good or bad knowing some skank reporter is going to print me.... out of all friggin things to print.... why couldn't that hack job quote me calling Bob a sexy hot fox?

I'm a Dylan fan and I like to talk about positives and negatives of Bob.... he's not perfect

BUT I don't want to slam him and then it's printed in the press to slag the guy.... WTF????

Ontherun: it's not that he did something illegal... it was marketed not on the up and up. What they said and what it is are 2 different things.... he should have credited the sources but doesn't legally have to.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Bob Dylan - The Asia Series
PostPosted: Thu September 29th, 2011, 22:00 GMT 

Joined: Tue September 28th, 2010, 14:34 GMT
Posts: 2488
I feel that there is no neutral ground when it comes to Bob. Either you are his friend or you are his enemy. There is very little neutral ground.........I wish there was more of the neutral ground but our Bob is a very controversal artist. I wish things will run more smooth in the future for him. I love him so and I hate to see him sad when all he wanted was to paint some pictures.

Put that in perspective people.


Last edited by Ontherun on Thu September 29th, 2011, 22:02 GMT, edited 1 time in total.

Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Bob Dylan - The Asia Series
PostPosted: Thu September 29th, 2011, 22:02 GMT 
User avatar

Joined: Fri October 30th, 2009, 01:23 GMT
Posts: 1130
Location: By the waterfront docks, where the sailors all come in
Ontherun wrote:
It is kind of crazy to wait for an explanation to something that can not be explained.......you think he should stand a trial?

Bob saw some pictures he liked them He painted them. He put them out for an exhibition. Simple. I guess it depends what you call it? I never heard of a law that says you are not allowed to paint a picture you like. oh now I know.......Why don't we all demonstrate to make a new law that nobody can paint any picture before they get a written permission?


Geez, calm down a bit, would ya? All I am saying is that (as Milcow says) the show was marketed disingenuously. Bob addressed the whole China/protest song issue on his 'site, and if there is a similar misunderstanding here, maybe it is a good idea to get out in front of it.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Bob Dylan - The Asia Series
PostPosted: Thu September 29th, 2011, 22:08 GMT 

Joined: Tue September 28th, 2010, 14:34 GMT
Posts: 2488
capecod wrote:
Ontherun wrote:
It is kind of crazy to wait for an explanation to something that can not be explained.......you think he should stand a trial?

Bob saw some pictures he liked them He painted them. He put them out for an exhibition. Simple. I guess it depends what you call it? I never heard of a law that says you are not allowed to paint a picture you like. oh now I know.......Why don't we all demonstrate to make a new law that nobody can paint any picture before they get a written permission?


Geez, calm down a bit, would ya? All I am saying is that (as Milcow says) the show was marketed disingenuously. Bob addressed the whole China/protest song issue on his 'site, and if there is a similar misunderstanding here, maybe it is a good idea to get out in front of it.

Excuse me. I should calm down? It looks like the whole art world all over the world is up in arms over nothing and you tell me I should calm down?
I never said anything about plagiarism or false marketing?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Bob Dylan - The Asia Series
PostPosted: Thu September 29th, 2011, 22:48 GMT 
User avatar

Joined: Sat September 13th, 2008, 04:43 GMT
Posts: 2406
When I saw the original press release claim that these paintings were "a visual journal of Dylan's travels," I cringed. Anyone who knows how his bobness operates would've known that this was rubbish, but here it was being repeatedly quoted by serious people who had no reason to disbelieve it. Now they do - and they deserve to feel insulted. Welcome to BobWorld - no sulking.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Bob Dylan - The Asia Series
PostPosted: Thu September 29th, 2011, 23:30 GMT 

Joined: Sat September 17th, 2011, 02:08 GMT
Posts: 455
rankflv wrote:
Could the Life Magazine cover piece be a key to the entire series? It is a real odd ball in the whole lot (of what I’ve seen). Is the entire series a comment on authenticity? Is choosing the artist with the previous lawsuit to write the guide also part of this series’ meaning? I have a hard time believing that this whole thing wasn’t planned by Dylan. The joker, the masked, the anonymous, love and theft. . . Hasn’t there always been a theme of identity and authenticity surrounding Dylan and his work?


Yes... so many interesting ideas here. People were saying that the art was in his signature. I took that to mean they thought that he was only in for the money,but i think the ideas have led him here. The fact that the art is by "Dylan" will draw many people to see it... or hear about it or read about it- will it be the same as seeing it? What does the "intention" of the artist mean,for me there are so many fascinating questions. But that is what he has been doing his whole life, from my perspective anyway (well and that is constantly changing too i guess). There are so many different things to be appreciated in his work. For me, it is one of the great things an artist can do, make you question... I think he should give a press conference.... maybe interviewed by ali G. Sacha Baron Cohen,aka borat, bruno, r.l.?, and who know's what other characters he has running around- another very interesting artist,with a lot going on in my opinion . If someone already said this, thanks, but i don't have time to read through all of it, yet


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Bob Dylan - The Asia Series
PostPosted: Thu September 29th, 2011, 23:33 GMT 
User avatar

Joined: Sun April 3rd, 2011, 21:46 GMT
Posts: 2903
Location: Stuck in bloody Chickentown
Ontherun, is english your first language? Seriously.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Bob Dylan - The Asia Series
PostPosted: Thu September 29th, 2011, 23:40 GMT 

Joined: Thu September 29th, 2011, 16:02 GMT
Posts: 2
Wow, I just listened to Uncle John's Bongos. Even the little guitar licks are the same!

I have to admit, it doesn't bother me as much as I would expect, and I think a lot of that has to do with expectation. The album is called Love and Theft! I don't think that announcing your intentions or attributions makes you immune to criticism, but at the same time I don't feel like I've had something pulled over on me (even if I have).

Whereas in the case of the paintings, it was touted as being directly based on Dylan's own experiences in Asia. And the comment from the gallery that these experiences are reflected in his color choices and lines is pure hokum.

Is there some place online where I can find a comprehensive list of influences on Dylan's musical output? Preferably song-by-song?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Bob Dylan - The Asia Series
PostPosted: Thu September 29th, 2011, 23:55 GMT 

Joined: Tue September 28th, 2010, 14:34 GMT
Posts: 2488
Felliniesque wrote:
Ontherun, is english your first language? Seriously.

No it is not.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Bob Dylan - The Asia Series
PostPosted: Thu September 29th, 2011, 23:59 GMT 
Promethium Member
User avatar

Joined: Mon December 6th, 2004, 07:22 GMT
Posts: 15018
Location: Scarlet Town
Ontherun wrote:
Felliniesque wrote:
Ontherun, is english your first language? Seriously.

No it is not.



really??? wow you write well.... holy crap!!!!!!

Perhaps when you read English you are taking the way we phrase things the wrong way as combative and it's just the way we speak? That happens you know.... it happened to me with Spanish all the time.... They phrase things differently. To me things said on this Spanish website I used to post on were mean and rude... to them it was normal speech and phrasing... could be the same sort of thing...

but holy crap you write well!!!!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Bob Dylan - The Asia Series
PostPosted: Fri September 30th, 2011, 00:06 GMT 

Joined: Tue September 28th, 2010, 14:34 GMT
Posts: 2488
Thank you very much. My talents are leaning torwards languages. I speak French and German as well as a little Hebrew. Swedish is my mother tounge though.
Thank you again for your compliment It warms my heart You know we need to stick together. There is no need for stife and fighting. Life is so short and we are here for to love oneanother and take eachother's hands. At least I think so.


I have a meeting to attend. See you guys tomorrow!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Bob Dylan - The Asia Series
PostPosted: Fri September 30th, 2011, 02:11 GMT 

Joined: Wed December 20th, 2006, 17:04 GMT
Posts: 35
Is it good?
Is it authentic?
Who cares.
I just want to know what it says.

When did we return to the painting being about the subject? If we think Monet was highly invested in mundane haystacks, I think we have missed the point of painting. What does that Life magazine say about the nature of art?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Bob Dylan - The Asia Series
PostPosted: Fri September 30th, 2011, 04:19 GMT 

Joined: Wed December 20th, 2006, 17:04 GMT
Posts: 35
The Plus Side
The Strategy
The Dissent
The Shadow
The Mask
The Bowl
The Underworld
The Birds
The Enemy
The Prick
The Tower
The Risk Taking
The Test of Time
Thinking Outside the Box
What Happens Next

?????


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Bob Dylan - The Asia Series
PostPosted: Fri September 30th, 2011, 04:59 GMT 

Joined: Mon May 2nd, 2011, 16:05 GMT
Posts: 3113
Location: Lower Slobbovia, Slob Nobbin' with the common Bob Slobs
"Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men? The Shadow knows!"

http://youtu.be/QhquKI_wq_0


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Bob Dylan - The Asia Series
PostPosted: Fri September 30th, 2011, 06:28 GMT 
User avatar

Joined: Fri September 30th, 2011, 06:21 GMT
Posts: 1
The exhibition is said to be Dylan's' thoughts of "people, street scenes, structure and landscape" culled from Dylan's travels in Asia. But why is it there are number of people who says that he's ripping off photographs he didn't take? This isn't really the first time he was accused of plagiarism. See it here: Bob Dylan paintings may be copied from photographs. It is yours to judge.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Bob Dylan - The Asia Series
PostPosted: Fri September 30th, 2011, 09:03 GMT 
Titanium Member
User avatar

Joined: Tue June 23rd, 2009, 10:29 GMT
Posts: 9745
Location: Sydney
I'd like to remind everybody to be on their best behaviour.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Bob Dylan - The Asia Series
PostPosted: Fri September 30th, 2011, 09:05 GMT 
Mercury Member
User avatar

Joined: Wed January 28th, 2009, 10:47 GMT
Posts: 10102
Location: A high place of darkness and light
Hello Press People! Woo!

I'd like to say hi to my mum, and that I really, really, really like Bob Dylan's music up until 1978.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Bob Dylan - The Asia Series
PostPosted: Fri September 30th, 2011, 09:12 GMT 
Titanium Member
User avatar

Joined: Tue June 23rd, 2009, 10:29 GMT
Posts: 9745
Location: Sydney
Quote Benny, guys, he's Universal Judge Of All Things Dylan


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Bob Dylan - The Asia Series
PostPosted: Fri September 30th, 2011, 09:22 GMT 
Promethium Member

Joined: Tue December 14th, 2010, 15:22 GMT
Posts: 19838
Location: to over there and back
I just spend an hour of my life cleaning up after you people. This is an important discussion, but it has to be lead in a civilized manner. We have guests around. On behalf of the ER team, I'd like to ask you to refrain from swearing, shouting, deceiving and personal attacks. Thanks for your cooperation.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Bob Dylan - The Asia Series
PostPosted: Fri September 30th, 2011, 09:23 GMT 
Mercury Member
User avatar

Joined: Wed January 28th, 2009, 10:47 GMT
Posts: 10102
Location: A high place of darkness and light
tellmemomma1966 wrote:
Quote Benny, guys, he's Universal Judge Of All Things Dylan


I'm also available for weddings, childrens parties and bar mitzvahs.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Bob Dylan - The Asia Series
PostPosted: Fri September 30th, 2011, 10:01 GMT 

Joined: Tue September 28th, 2010, 14:34 GMT
Posts: 2488
To all the writers and Joni Mitchell who dismisses Bob as a fake I am tellin' you please


Take the only tree that's left
and stuff it up the hole
in your brains


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Bob Dylan - The Asia Series
PostPosted: Fri September 30th, 2011, 12:07 GMT 
User avatar

Joined: Wed June 22nd, 2011, 11:06 GMT
Posts: 2949
Location: Athens, Greece
KaiseruH wrote:
The exhibition is said to be Dylan's' thoughts of "people, street scenes, structure and landscape" culled from Dylan's travels in Asia. But why is it there are number of people who says that he's ripping off photographs he didn't take? This isn't really the first time he was accused of plagiarism. See it here: Bob Dylan paintings may be copied from photographs. It is yours to judge.


Are you a fan or did you just make an account to accuse Dylan of plagarism?In case you didn't notice the press took the story from this very topic, in which Dylan fans discuss authenticity in Bob's work.You came to the party late i guess.Have a nice day.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Bob Dylan - The Asia Series
PostPosted: Fri September 30th, 2011, 12:10 GMT 
User avatar

Joined: Wed June 22nd, 2011, 11:06 GMT
Posts: 2949
Location: Athens, Greece
Johanna Parker wrote:
Yes, but does she have the highway blues?


No.You can tell it by the way she smiles. :lol:


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Bob Dylan - The Asia Series
PostPosted: Fri September 30th, 2011, 12:24 GMT 
Senior Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Thu October 26th, 2006, 03:28 GMT
Posts: 19586
Location: I'm in Bostontown in some restaurant.
KaiseruH wrote:
The exhibition is said to be Dylan's' thoughts of "people, street scenes, structure and landscape" culled from Dylan's travels in Asia. But why is it there are number of people who says that he's ripping off photographs he didn't take? This isn't really the first time he was accused of plagiarism. See it here: Bob Dylan paintings may be copied from photographs. It is yours to judge.


Thank you for letting us know on page 20 of this thread. We had no idea. :?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Bob Dylan - The Asia Series
PostPosted: Fri September 30th, 2011, 12:39 GMT 
User avatar

Joined: Wed June 22nd, 2011, 11:06 GMT
Posts: 2949
Location: Athens, Greece
KaiseruH wrote:
The exhibition is said to be Dylan's' thoughts of "people, street scenes, structure and landscape" culled from Dylan's travels in Asia. But why is it there are number of people who says that he's ripping off photographs he didn't take? This isn't really the first time he was accused of plagiarism. See it here: Bob Dylan paintings may be copied from photographs. It is yours to judge.


This reminds of something...Ah yes, it reminds me of ''another gentleman's'' first post

annalynB wrote:
The exhibition, called a “firsthand depictions of individuals, street scenes, structure and scenery," was allegedly a reflection of Dylan's trips in Asia. However, some are accusing the artist of robbing his image from formerly released photos. Bob Dylan paintings may be copied from photographs but I guess there's nothing wrong about this, I would only find it wrong if he will going to sell them for profit. What he did is a form of art. Well this is not the first Dylan has been accused of plagiarism.


Hm..."Elementary, my dear Watson.'' :wink:


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 901 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23 ... 37  Next

All times are UTC [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: conal0102, Giada, John B. Stetson, sherrvoe


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group