It Used To Go Like This

trent_vinyl

Untrodden Path wrote:

Not being much of a fan of Bob's circus organ, I'll have to admit I was very surprised that it was still 1,000 times better than the Live '66. If he turned the organ off or down significantly it would be even better.

Listening to the Live '66 (an agonizing 9 minutes of my life I'll never get back! :evil:

) makes me wonder (a) what the hell is he doing with the great Telecaster since he strums it every 30 seconds or so (maybe) (b) is there anyone left in the auditorium or did they all run like hell to avoid the carnage, and (c) how did he go from that to becoming the GREAT Bob Dylan?

Then the '86... I caught a couple of those shows and they were marvelous in every way. Bob actually PLAYED the guitar and he tries a novel approach... he discards the pretentious bulls**t and actually sings the song. He exudes the greatness he possesses as a performer.

Then '95... he plays his guitar and he sings the song, does some nice soloing. You sense he loves what he's doing and would do this no matter what. Heaven and earth could be destroyed but he'll be there playing and enjoying it. Similar to '66, he's in his own little world but this one is inviting, not revolting.

The '01... probably the best performance of the selected videos. Smooth, beautiful, everything coming together nicely and well played. And such a nice Strat... I believe this is the Strat with his signature inlayed with mother of pearl or abalone on the fretboard. A nice touch.

And 2011... actually not bad. Well sung, well played, he's into the performance and it turns out pretty darn good. At 70 and going strong, a living legend, he is.

Wow, I don't know what you're thinking. '66 gave me goosebumps watching that. Someone above I believe said, best video ever, and I can't argue with that. The intensity, and outright mayhem of it, is incredible. Robbie's guitar is fantastic and so is Richard's piano playing. Dylan is crazy singing on stage. No one was doing anything like that and no one still is. It's fascinating. Who cares if his guitar is pretty much a prop. Are we missing anything musically because of it? All other versions were surprisingly pretty good too, given that I've heard a number of bootlegs where I've felt its just going throught the motions.

elmer

trent_vinyl wrote:

Untrodden Path wrote:

Not being much of a fan of Bob's circus organ, I'll have to admit I was very surprised that it was still 1,000 times better than the Live '66. If he turned the organ off or down significantly it would be even better.

Listening to the Live '66 (an agonizing 9 minutes of my life I'll never get back! :evil:

) makes me wonder (a) what the hell is he doing with the great Telecaster since he strums it every 30 seconds or so (maybe) (b) is there anyone left in the auditorium or did they all run like hell to avoid the carnage, and (c) how did he go from that to becoming the GREAT Bob Dylan?

Then the '86... I caught a couple of those shows and they were marvelous in every way. Bob actually PLAYED the guitar and he tries a novel approach... he discards the pretentious bulls**t and actually sings the song. He exudes the greatness he possesses as a performer.

Then '95... he plays his guitar and he sings the song, does some nice soloing. You sense he loves what he's doing and would do this no matter what. Heaven and earth could be destroyed but he'll be there playing and enjoying it. Similar to '66, he's in his own little world but this one is inviting, not revolting.

The '01... probably the best performance of the selected videos. Smooth, beautiful, everything coming together nicely and well played. And such a nice Strat... I believe this is the Strat with his signature inlayed with mother of pearl or abalone on the fretboard. A nice touch.

And 2011... actually not bad. Well sung, well played, he's into the performance and it turns out pretty darn good. At 70 and going strong, a living legend, he is.

Wow, I don't know what you're thinking. '66 gave me goosebumps watching that. Someone above I believe said, best video ever, and I can't argue with that. The intensity, and outright mayhem of it, is incredible. Robbie's guitar is fantastic and so is Richard's piano playing. Dylan is crazy singing on stage. No one was doing anything like that and no one still is. It's fascinating. Who cares if his guitar is pretty much a prop. Are we missing anything musically because of it? All other versions were surprisingly pretty good too, given that I've heard a number of bootlegs where I've felt its just going throught the motions.

it contained the thing his performances have lacked ever since; genuine passion and commitment to the music

Cipher_Pipe

elmer wrote:

trent_vinyl wrote:

Wow, I don't know what you're thinking. '66 gave me goosebumps watching that. Someone above I believe said, best video ever, and I can't argue with that. The intensity, and outright mayhem of it, is incredible. Robbie's guitar is fantastic and so is Richard's piano playing. Dylan is crazy singing on stage. No one was doing anything like that and no one still is. It's fascinating. Who cares if his guitar is pretty much a prop. Are we missing anything musically because of it? All other versions were surprisingly pretty good too, given that I've heard a number of bootlegs where I've felt its just going throught the motions.

it contained the thing his performances have lacked ever since; genuine passion and commitment to the music

And a mind obliterated by drugs.

But I see what you're saying. Those 1975 shows were as flat as a mouldy pancake.

jcastro

Bennyboy wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgSioKjJTiw&feature=related

Then it went like that

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7xeZQ17 ... re=related

And that:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mteNpxUFEE8

And this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zzdDqgchz4

And that:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_gEuzWFrLU

And now it goes like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nomvyRB7 ... re=related

How does it feel?

I love this song, thanks for your research

senor10 · **Joined:** Sat June 18th, 2011, 08:44 GMT **Posts:** 347

Bennyboy wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgSioKjJTiw&feature=related

Then it went like that

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7xeZQ17 ... re=related

And that:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mteNpxUFEE8

And this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zzdDqgchz4

And that:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_gEuzWFrLU

And now it goes like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nomvyRB7 ... re=related

How does it feel?

At least you don't change. Smug right to the end.

Untrodden Path

trent_vinyl wrote:

Untrodden Path wrote:

Not being much of a fan of Bob's circus organ, I'll have to admit I was very surprised that it was still 1,000 times better than the Live '66. If he turned the organ off or down significantly it would be even better.

Listening to the Live '66 (an agonizing 9 minutes of my life I'll never get back! :evil:

) makes me wonder (a) what the hell is he doing with the great Telecaster since he strums it every 30 seconds or so (maybe) (b) is there anyone left in the auditorium or did they all run like hell to avoid the carnage, and (c) how did he go from that to becoming the GREAT Bob Dylan?

Then the '86... I caught a couple of those shows and they were marvelous in every way. Bob actually PLAYED the guitar and he tries a novel approach... he discards the pretentious bulls**t and actually sings the song. He exudes the greatness he possesses as a performer.

Then '95... he plays his guitar and he sings the song, does some nice soloing. You sense he loves what he's doing and would do this no matter what. Heaven and earth could be destroyed but he'll be there playing and enjoying it. Similar to '66, he's in his own little world but this one is inviting, not revolting.

The '01... probably the best performance of the selected videos. Smooth, beautiful, everything coming together nicely and well played. And such a nice Strat... I believe this is the Strat with his signature inlayed with mother of pearl or abalone on the fretboard. A nice touch.

And 2011... actually not bad. Well sung, well played, he's into the performance and it turns out pretty darn good. At 70 and going strong, a living legend, he is.

Wow, I don't know what you're thinking. '66 gave me goosebumps watching that. Someone above I believe said, best video ever, and I can't argue with that. The intensity, and outright mayhem of it, is incredible. Robbie's guitar is fantastic and so is Richard's piano playing. Dylan is crazy singing on stage. No one was doing anything like that and no one still is. It's fascinating. Who cares if his guitar is pretty much a prop. Are we missing anything musically because of it? All other versions were surprisingly pretty good too, given that I've heard a number of bootlegs where I've felt its just going throught the motions.

If ever there was a "Praise Jesus!!!" moment, this would be it.

delvis_crasho

Bennyboy wrote:

He's pretty crap, yeah.

I second.

Well, I do like his cover of "This Magic Moment."

The Mighty Monkey Of Mim

Bennyboy wrote:

Seems it matters not one bit to some Bob Dylan fans how and how well Bob Dylan sings his songs.

Preference for 2001 or 2011 over 1966 or 1976 versions of Like A Rolling Stone, as posted here?

This I find a depressing and disturbing thing. Has taste been dumbed down so much?

I'll tell you what I find depressing and disturbing: that this meets anyone's definition of good singing.

Grumpy-the-Buick

The Mighty Monkey Of Mim wrote:

I'll tell you what I find depressing and disturbing:
that this meets anyone's definition of good singing.

..What are you doing HERE? Johnny Mathis doesn't LIVE HERE, man.
- Do you sing along with the radio, stereo - have you ever got excited
and tried to sing over the excitement of others? Do you know what CONTEXT is?
..What are you doing HERE? - trying to mince words and ecyclopediasize the greatest
sounds ever made in Rock/Roll? - or are you just playing Little Miss Fusspudgie?
- if you choose THIS as an example of singing you don't find GOOD ...
.. you ain't being honest - you're playing Musical Semantics. ..

J0hanna4Ever

Dear Monkey, I agree with Grumpy. What are you doing here? Are you Mr. Jones or something? That Royal Albert Hall bootleg may be the best concert bootleg ever made. You are obviously really a monkey and not a human because you are missing a link!

Love, Joanna XXOX

fanniefarkle

While the first clip has the most energy, I prefer the second clip from the 1970's. The last one, from August 2011 seemed like Dylan and the band were just going thru the motions. And the next to last clip, where the audience is singing along? blah...but I have a pet peeve about sing-a-longs.

Cipher_Pipe

The Mighty Monkey Of Mim wrote:

Bennyboy wrote:

Seems it matters not one bit to some Bob Dylan fans how and how well Bob Dylan sings his songs.

Preference for 2001 or 2011 over 1966 or 1976 versions of Like A Rolling Stone, as posted here?

This I find a depressing and disturbing thing. Has taste been dumbed down so much?

I'll tell you what I find depressing and disturbing: that this meets anyone's definition of good singing.

I agree.

Untrodden Path

The Mighty Monkey Of Mim wrote:

Bennyboy wrote:

Seems it matters not one bit to some Bob Dylan fans how and how well Bob Dylan sings his songs.

Preference for 2001 or 2011 over 1966 or 1976 versions of Like A Rolling Stone, as posted here?

This I find a depressing and disturbing thing. Has taste been dumbed down so much?

I'll tell you what I find depressing and disturbing: that this meets anyone's definition of good singing.

As usual, The Mighty Monkey Of Mim comes through as a voice of calm, cool, and collected wisdom. Granted, this particular situation is not so challenging but for inexplicable reasons, some people claim this is good.

A request, if anyone can find a video or audio of Bob singing Like A Rolling Stone that is actually worse than 1966, please destroy it before it harms somebody. Based on the discussions here, it appears several many people have suffered hearing loss and may have been permanently damaged by this slop.

Untrodden Path

Can it ever be better than this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&featu ... QhSZliLE1k

Summer 2012 is shaping up to be a summer to remember... one for the ages... and the gods.

The Saw · **Joined:** Tue June 26th, 2012, 22:00 GMT **Posts:** 1479

This has to be the most pointless thread of all time. The entire thing is just Bennyboy saying "Bob sucks now, and if you think otherwise, you're wrong", which is something he insists of stressing quite regularly anyway.

TheGunfighter

Untrodden Path wrote:

Can it ever be better than this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&featu ... QhSZliLE1k

Summer 2012 is shaping up to be a summer to remember... one for the ages... and the gods.

Wow, his singing is actually passable in that video. The echo is stupid though.

Tragos114

Untrodden Path wrote:

Can it ever be better than this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&featu ... QhSZliLE1k

Summer 2012 is shaping up to be a summer to remember... one for the ages... and the gods.

Great thanks !

( you didn't have to bump this thread though ) :wink:

boiledgutsofbirds · **Joined:** Mon June 1st, 2009, 08:24 GMT **Posts:** 801

I reckon every version of LARS post-66 is mediocre, he should have put the song to rest and let its legacy live on.

J0hanna4Ever

Tragos114 wrote:

Untrodden Path wrote:

Can it ever be better than this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&featu ... QhSZliLE1k

Summer 2012 is shaping up to be a summer to remember... one for the ages... and the gods.

Great thanks !

( you didn't have to bump this thread though ) :wink:

That WAS nice!

Love, Joanna XOXO

doomedtoloveyou

The Saw wrote:

This has to be the most pointless thread of all time. The entire thing is just Bennyboy saying "Bob sucks now, and if you think otherwise, you're wrong", which is something he insists of stressing quite regularly anyway.

Wrong on all points, Saw. Benny has his opinion, like all the rest of us. Is he not allowed to voice it? I may not always agree with what he says, but he should be allowed to say what he thinks on a Bob Dylan forum. Why is this a pointless thread? He keeps trying, as he always has, to get people to listen to Bob's music and make their own comparisons. He gave us songs to listen to so that we could make our own comparisons.

I for one will miss his humor and observations. His last words:

"Tell them I thank them for killing me and I forgive them."

(He makes me smile to the end!

)

Giada · **Joined:** Wed May 11th, 2011, 06:31 GMT **Posts:** 4662

^
His last words? what do you mean, doomed?

Untrodden Path

boiledgutsofbirds wrote:

I reckon every version of LARS post-66 is mediocre, he should have put the song to rest and let its legacy live on.

Its a wonderful song that has gone through a variety of creative influences. My absolute least favorite, i.e. the one I dislike the most, is the '66 performances. Putting the song to rest would have meant missing the brilliance of Freddy Koella's masterful work on this song. That right there would have been a dictionary definition for tragedy.

Ain't Talkin'

Giada wrote:

^
His last words? what do you mean, doomed?

No more Benny? Really? Oh, Christ, I thought he went on summer vacation or something.

He'll be back, I'm sure.

J0hanna4Ever

Doomed, I thought he was coming back the 23rd. I hope he returns and that is not his epitaph.

Love, Joanna XOXO

Tragos114

He'll be back , i'm sure
What would ER be without Bennyboy? :wink:

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