Isn't mid-1960s Bob terribly overrated?

Trev

Still Go Barefoot wrote:

tellmemomma1966 wrote:

perhaps the mods could pick a side in the debate (doesn't matter which one) and then ban everybody on the other side

after that this place would have no problems whatsoever

No.

Yes!

Still Go Barefoot · **Joined:** Fri July 15th, 2011, 03:23 GMT **Posts:** 10376

Still Go Barefoot wrote:

tellmemomma1966 wrote:

perhaps the mods could pick a side in the debate (doesn't matter which one) and then ban everybody on the other side

after that this place would have no problems whatsoever

No.

Trev wrote:

Yes!

They didn't have loft insulators in the mid-60s. We couldn't afford them.

Trev

Didn't stop my ancestors SGB! Trevs've been insulating lofts for hundreds of years, starting long before the invention of lofts. In fact, initially loft insulators viewed lofts suspiciously, but we soon grew to understand that they may even help business!

goombay · **Joined:** Sat April 18th, 2009, 22:24 GMT **Posts:** 4461

Trev wrote:

Didn't stop my ancestors SGB! Trevs've been insulating lofts for hundreds of years, starting long before the invention of lofts. In fact, initially loft insulators viewed lofts suspiciously, but we soon grew to understand that they may even help business!

i cant blame loft insulators from viewing lofts suspiciously, since im not sure what lofts are. here lofts are where you go when you are ready to pass out drunk so the last thing you would need is insulation. so yes, you have to be suspicious/ :wink:

Still Go Barefoot · **Joined:** Fri July 15th, 2011, 03:23 GMT **Posts:** 10376

Trev wrote:

Didn't stop my ancestors SGB! Trevs've been insulating lofts for hundreds of years, starting long before the invention of lofts. In fact, initially loft insulators viewed lofts suspiciously, but we soon grew to understand that they may even help business!

I heard that they were terribly overrated in those days and now have just been riding the tailcoats of lives past...

Ain't Talkin'

Trev wrote:

Didn't stop my ancestors SGB! Trevs've been insulating lofts for hundreds of years, starting long before the invention of lofts. In fact, initially loft insulators viewed lofts suspiciously, but we soon grew to understand that they may even help business!

Tony Garnier told me he needs his house insulated. I told him his insolation was the big cheese.

goombay · **Joined:** Sat April 18th, 2009, 22:24 GMT **Posts:** 4461

Ain't Talkin' wrote:

Trev wrote:

Didn't stop my ancestors SGB! Trevs've been insulating lofts for hundreds of years, starting long before the invention of lofts. In fact, initially loft insulators viewed lofts suspiciously, but we soon grew to understand that they may even help business!

Tony Garnier told me he needs his house insulated. I told him his insolation was the big cheese.

'insolation' to keep the cold in? :lol:

Still Go Barefoot · **Joined:** Fri July 15th, 2011, 03:23 GMT **Posts:** 10376

Trev wrote:

Didn't stop my ancestors SGB! Trevs've been insulating lofts for hundreds of years, starting long before the invention of lofts. In fact, initially loft insulators viewed lofts suspiciously, but we soon grew to understand that they may even help business!

I even heard James McMurtry sing about them saying they can't make it here anymore.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbWRfBZY ... ata_player

goombay · **Joined:** Sat April 18th, 2009, 22:24 GMT **Posts:** 4461

Still Go Barefoot wrote:

Trev wrote:

Didn't stop my ancestors SGB! Trevs've been insulating lofts for hundreds of years, starting long before the invention of lofts. In fact, initially loft insulators viewed lofts suspiciously, but we soon grew to understand that they may even help business!

I even heard James McMurtry sing about them saying they can't make it here anymore.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbWRfBZY ... ata_player

a name from the past, is he still around james mcmurtry?

Still Go Barefoot · **Joined:** Fri July 15th, 2011, 03:23 GMT **Posts:** 10376

goombay wrote:

Still Go Barefoot wrote:

I even heard James McMurtry sing about them saying they can't make it here anymore.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbWRfBZY ... ata_player

a name from the past, is he still around james mcmurtry?

Yup, tourin' like a Dylan...

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goombay · **Joined:** Sat April 18th, 2009, 22:24 GMT **Posts:** 4461

Quote:

a name from the past, is he still around james mcmurtry?

Quote:

Yup, tourin' like a Dylan…

hes a total trip.

Shoeless Hunter · **Joined:** Fri May 28th, 2010, 07:16 GMT **Posts:** 124

goombay wrote:

Trev wrote:

Ok. Maybe I was a little hasty, and what's needed is some extensive debate about the merits of his 1960s output. What might help is if we compare him today with his 1960s self. For instance, we could start with the voice!

BOB is ONE.

you cant divide him. :wink:

MT is as much a masterpiece as HWY 61 and HWY 61 is the ultimate masterpiece.

but wait for Tempest, its gonna school the music community.

Yikes! MT is not a masterpiece. It's good, but BIABH, HWY61 and BoB are masterpieces. I sometimes wonder if they are overrated but then I listen to them again and I am reminded every time. Other possible masterpieces...BOTT, Freewheelin’, Times Are A-Changin’. All for different reasons.

Personal not-so-popular favs: Street Legal and Shot Of Love.

The Saw · **Joined:** Tue June 26th, 2012, 22:00 GMT **Posts:** 1478

Shoeless Hunter wrote:

goombay wrote:

BOB is ONE.

you cant divide him. :wink:

MT is as much a masterpiece as HWY 61 and HWY 61 is the ultimate masterpiece.

but wait for Tempest, its gonna school the music community.

Yikes! MT is not a masterpiece. It's good, but BIABH, HWY61 and BoB are masterpieces. I sometimes wonder if they are overrated but then I listen to them again and I am reminded every time. Other possible masterpieces...BOTT, Freewheelin’, Times Are A-Changin’. All for different reasons.

Personal not-so-popular favs: Street Legal and Shot Of Love.

Bob's masterpieces are:
Freewheelin'
The Times
BIABH
HWY61
BoB
Arguably JWH
BOTT
Desire
Oh Mercy
TOOM
L&T
These aren't necessarily my favorites. I just think they are technically his "best" as a whole.

Shoeless Hunter · **Joined:** Fri May 28th, 2010, 07:16 GMT **Posts:** 124

If you swap Joey out for Abandoned Love...Desire becomes a Masterpiece.

Bootleg #8 proved to me that Oh Mercy and TOOM could have been much better. Although 2 of my favorites.

Love L&T, just think it has a few too many weaker songs…I just can’t listen to Tweedle and Mississippi has better versions (again, the damn bootlegs!!)

The Saw · **Joined:** Tue June 26th, 2012, 22:00 GMT **Posts:** 1478

I'll agree that the acoustic version of Mississippi is far superior to the album version.

Wonderer

The Saw wrote:

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Bob's masterpieces are:
Freewheelin'
The Times
BIABH
HWY61
BoB
Arguably JWH
BOTT
Desire
Oh Mercy
TOOM
L&T
These aren't necessarily my favorites. I just think they are technically his "best" as a whole.

Damn good picks! They're mine as well, I have a soft spot for Modern Times but it is by no means a masterpiece.

The Saw · **Joined:** Tue June 26th, 2012, 22:00 GMT **Posts:** 1478

Well, personally I love 99 percent of Bob's albums, and see them as masterpieces, but I didn't want to fanboy out too much.

Shoeless Hunter · **Joined:** Fri May 28th, 2010, 07:16 GMT **Posts:** 124

The Saw wrote:

Well, personally I love 99 percent of Bob's albums, and see them as masterpieces, but I didn't want to fanboy out too much.

Thank you for that.

Bennyboy

The Saw wrote:

Well, personally I love 99 percent of Bob's albums, and see them as masterpieces, but I didn't want to fanboy out too much.

As recent events show though, it's the other 1 percent that matter the most.

The Saw · **Joined:** Tue June 26th, 2012, 22:00 GMT **Posts:** 1478

Bennyboy wrote:

The Saw wrote:

Well, personally I love 99 percent of Bob's albums, and see them as masterpieces, but I didn't want to fanboy out too much.

As recent events show though, it's the other 1 percent that matter the most.

?

Bennyboy

OCCUPY BOB DYLAN'S BACK CATALOGUE!

The 10 best albums he's made represent less than 1% of the total wealth of his material.

Why are Blonde on Blonde, John Wesley Harding and Blood On The Tracks forced to live in such a ghetto? Who will speak for poor broken Highway 61 Revisited? Freewheelin' is denied urgent medical treatment while Modern Times smokes cigars and burns money!

IT'S TIME WE STOOD UP TO SUCH INJUSTICE!!

goombay · **Joined:** Sat April 18th, 2009, 22:24 GMT **Posts:** 4461

Quote:

Yikes! MT is not a masterpiece. It's good, but BIABH, HWY61 and BoB are masterpieces. I sometimes wonder if they are overrated but then I listen to them again and I am reminded every time. Other possible masterpieces...BOTT, Freewheelin’, Times Are A-Changin’. All for different reasons.

Personal not-so-popular favs: Street Legal and Shot Of Love.

MT is 100 percent masterpiece a timeless masterpiece than will never will be duplicated in its greatness. the public clamor for it 2.5 million units, talks truth to power.

goombay · **Joined:** Sat April 18th, 2009, 22:24 GMT **Posts:** 4461

Shoeless Hunter wrote:

If you swap Joey out for Abandoned Love...Desire becomes a Masterpiece.

Bootleg #8 proved to me that Oh Mercy and TOOM could have been much better. Although 2 of my favorites.

Love L&T, just think it has a few too many weaker songs…I just can’t listen to Tweedle and Mississippi has better versions (again, the damn bootlegs!!)

abandoned love in its studio form goes nowhere, thats why it was left off the record. desire is basically a demo.

Bennyboy

goombay wrote:

MT is 100 percent masterpiece a timeless masterpiece than will never will be duplicated in its greatness. the public clamor for it 2.5 million units, talks truth to power.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwv5oQPlrbw

goombay · **Joined:** Sat April 18th, 2009, 22:24 GMT **Posts:** 4461

The Saw wrote:

Well, personally I love 99 percent of Bob's albums, and see them as masterpieces, but I didn't want to fanboy out too much.

its called musicology, the kind you find in mojo or uncut or rolling stone anywhere with musical sophistication, you'll find that they would agree with the sentiment that just about everything bob has done is a masterpiece. MT for one is the mountainto :wink:

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