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 Post subject: Re: Summer Listening Challenge pt12 New Morning
PostPosted: Fri July 6th, 2012, 12:10 GMT 
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is Winterlude an original Bob melody? if so, it's terribly underrated... too bad he couldn't come up with a better lyric for it.. still a nice little song.



Winterlude has always reminded me of To Ramona. Same sort of tune and chords (if my memory serves me right)


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 Post subject: Re: Summer Listening Challenge pt12 New Morning
PostPosted: Fri July 6th, 2012, 12:47 GMT 
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I'm going to set myself an interesting challenge on this one to prove the sorry state of the loudness wars and CD remastering. I will post wave charts of the track 'New Morning' from

1) the original CD release
2) the remastered treble fest
3) the vinyl drop

then.. you will see what I mean..


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 Post subject: Re: Summer Listening Challenge pt12 New Morning
PostPosted: Fri July 6th, 2012, 13:35 GMT 
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stephenoxford wrote:
I'm going to set myself an interesting challenge on this one to prove the sorry state of the loudness wars and CD remastering. I will post wave charts of the track 'New Morning' from

1) the original CD release
2) the remastered treble fest
3) the vinyl drop

then.. you will see what I mean..


Can you also include the Stuttgart 1991 version Stephen? I suspect the wave form for that will keep scientists busy for a century or two, now they've found the Higgs Boson.


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 Post subject: Re: Summer Listening Challenge pt12 New Morning
PostPosted: Fri July 6th, 2012, 14:16 GMT 
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Splendid idea!

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The bit at the end is where he pukes.


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 Post subject: Re: Summer Listening Challenge pt12 New Morning
PostPosted: Fri July 6th, 2012, 14:29 GMT 
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Nashville Skyline, New Morning, Planet Waves.....all excellent. 8)

I dearly love most of the songs on New Morning...esp. the title track and Day of the Locusts.

- and Winterlude deserves more respect than it gets...it's a great little tune.
..I think of it as a sequel to 'Tonight I'll be Staying Here With You'.


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 Post subject: Re: Summer Listening Challenge pt12 New Morning
PostPosted: Fri July 6th, 2012, 14:37 GMT 
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Russ333 wrote:
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except that tea for the tillerman has one of the most condescendingly sexist songs ever in wild world!

Yeah, but it's only sexist if you think he's making a statement about all women. I always thought of it as a very specific woman he was writing about, a lover who was leaving him, a younger woman who in his mind was not very worldly or street smart and had to some extent "gotten by" on her looks. Surely there are at least a few women (and men) in the world who fit that mold and isn't it ok for him to write a song about one? Dylan would be the most sexist man on the planet if you were to take all of his songs about ex-lovers and think of them as statements on females as a whole.

Must admit, I never saw that as a sexist song! :shock: a sad and regretful song, yes - and I think Russ's thoughts on this echo my own. 40-odd years on, I still like the album, though how much of that liking is nostalgia for the time represented by the album, well ... who knows? :?


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 Post subject: Re: Summer Listening Challenge pt12 New Morning
PostPosted: Fri July 6th, 2012, 14:46 GMT 
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^^ I still like "Tea for the Tillerman" too, SuperM. ....like it very much.
....and Cat still sounds excellent. :)


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 Post subject: Re: Summer Listening Challenge pt12 New Morning
PostPosted: Fri July 6th, 2012, 20:42 GMT 

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I always took Wild World to be about a not very worldly young female, too.

And Wiki claims it was about his girlfriend Patti D'Arbanville (Lady D'Arbanville) who would have been all of 19 when Tillerman was released.


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 Post subject: Re: Summer Listening Challenge pt12 New Morning
PostPosted: Sat July 7th, 2012, 11:42 GMT 
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I've always liked the picture with Victoria Spivey on the back of the album cover.


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 Post subject: Re: Summer Listening Challenge pt12 New Morning
PostPosted: Mon July 23rd, 2012, 20:09 GMT 
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TheFatChocobo wrote:
I do really love the timber of his voice here.


the song that i first heard from this album is time passes slowly - somewhere this song popped out like a beacon around the 2nd or 3rd play i had of Biograph. If not for you i've only liked on compilations (excellent placement on the Australian Masterpieces if i remember)

hearing now, fresh, on a very clean vinyl the sound of if not for you is pretty rewarding...an indicator of what the focus of the album is to be about...but i really think of it as a set -up for the opener:
Locusts the little chirp sound is cute and a bit bizarre. the lyric and melody i love, very hard not to sing along. especially with the way the rest of the band gets behind the chorus. dylan writing solid songs, with solidarity. i'm happy to get in line. i wish everyone did 'pop' this way. easy on the ears, rewarding on the mind, and relatively economical in terms of time and spiritual investment. the drumming and piano dance at the end of this one is really quite delightful....

and the piano on time passes slowly seems to be a simple harmlessly enjoyable groove, much like i'll be your baby tonight. then he cracks into the refrain and cracks his voice when he's searching for love' and you know it's about a bit more. a beautiful example of the way dylan keeps a song structured around relatively isolated individual little parts (the guitar licks, the drum and piano syncopation, and the brilliant rests and crescendos. i've heard only a few songs surpass how this one ends....

went down to see the gypsy maybe my favorite song on the album...again hard not to sing along too....again great syncopated rhythms...
i love how the momentum starts off like a diddy and builds into an anthem. this is the new/countryside/grown up Dylan's Song to Woody. i also heart any dylan song that mentions minnesota or the north woods...and that 'little minnesota town' is extra priceless...

the opening guitar on winterlude touches at once the sound that gets pushed further on blood on the tracks and some of the pretty harmonics in Blonde on Blonde. add a dash of Self-Portrait's back up vocals, and you have quite a cuisine!
nearly impossible not to dance along to! this dude thinks it's grand...a perfect candidate for todays live show too!

dogs run free is that him playing piano? holy sh*t he's a good instrumentalist. from talkin' blues to talkin soul/gospel. i'm liking where this is going. a very cool moment in the 2005 shows too! ' to each his own, it's all unknown. ' i think Jimb mentioned how dylanesque this album is, that line alone can sum up dylan's manifest destiny... some are the best moments are after the song begins to fade out. the guitar part is a great stabilizer here...

new morning very surprised about three things: why was this not track 1? why has this not showed up on more compilations? and why has it grown old on me so fast? probably because i included it on too many versions of my wedding CD soundtrack. when i'm in the mood for it, it really makes the day. 'a country mile or two' is a brilliant and subtle line, with the way it's phrased. the 'or two' tossed in there as an aside, like it's not a big distance. this song would be great to hear on a 'such and such' symphony performs the music of bob dylan project. excellent drums and guitar work... again goes out with a bang. he really nails the endings on the songs here!

sign on the window oh wait. maybe the gypsy isn't the best song of the album. maybe this is. it's made most of my 'Dylan: year by year' compilations i've made for people who want a one song sampler from each of his albums...i don't know about these debates about james taylor doing this sort of sound better. i can't think of a performer who touches this as well. paul simon maybe in a very different way - perhaps van. the guitar and bass and beat. yes i hear van approach this domain...'that must be what it's all about...'

one more weekend his voice is most similar here (if it could even be compared) to where he was on blonde on blonde. other than that, a blues throwaway. can't compete with the others of it's grain... great background work from the band though! that piano too....love the guitar solo...
actually after the solo this song approaches the sound occupied by street legal and some of his raunchy eighties albums (raunchy in a good way)

man in me first really exposed to it on the album, but made quite comical in big lebowski. i like the 'man in me doesn't want to be turned into some machine' line. but for the most part it's too catchy and downhill from the la la la opener. i think i'd enjoy dylan la la la ing for 4 minutes just as well (which i do, on wig wam!)...good organ. a little mobilizing, like steppenwolf....

but provides a brilliant segway into Three Angels - the best lyrics on the album...
dylan can show social angst and not be protesty at the same time. Dylan does soul. quite nicely actually. listening to this album now i hear the roots of much of what he acccomplished on the Christian albums.

father of night i would have no qualms using these lyrics in place of saying grace before dinner or having my kids recite its words before bed time, in lieu of Church.

what's remarkable about this album is how easily it fades into the background (it was one of the first proper albums i owned of his, and now one of the least frequently played) but now having really attended to it, i am a little blown away..., so when brought to center stage, it still can carry the room...


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 Post subject: Re: Summer Listening Challenge pt12 New Morning
PostPosted: Tue August 28th, 2012, 19:08 GMT 
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Here's a great cover of Time Passes Slowly, probably from someone I found on here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C83UNPEA ... ture=g-u-u


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 Post subject: Re: Summer Listening Challenge pt12 New Morning
PostPosted: Thu November 29th, 2012, 17:34 GMT 

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Just listened to the remastered version yesterday on headphones and heard those chirps in Day Of The Locusts. Sound FX on a Dylan song!? Kinda blew my mind. Does he do that anywhere else?


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