first review of "Tempest"

Still Go Barefoot · **Joined:** Fri July 15th, 2011, 03:23 GMT **Posts:** 10376

MMD wrote:

stephenoxford wrote:

Maybe so?

Vinyl pressed up already as review copies? Wow.

OK. Though it ought not have to be said, it seems like it does have to be said anyway. So, here: the alleged review being discussed here is clearly a a parody (of a number of things, including but not only, Dylan's fans)
Leaving external factors aside for the moment, there are a number of internal elements of the "review" that intentionally signal the joke. Throat singing is the most obvious.

Here is a fairly incontestable and objective piece of evidence for those still holding out hope that the review is genuine:
If you look at the picture "quoted" above, from the review website, of the back of the LP, you'll see that the songs are divided into a number of groupings which indicate which of the four sides of the two LPs each song will be on.
Look at the first grouping of songs in Bumstead's (how fun is that to say!?) picture. Side one of Bumstead's (yep. still fun to say) first LP has only the first two songs on it: Duquesne Whistle and Soon After Midnight.

Now look at the way the songs are divided up on Dylan's official store website:
http://www.myplaydirect.com/bobdylan/te ... s/27642919

Three songs on LP 1, side 1, including Narrow Way.

It was a fine guess by Bumstead (yep), putting just two songs on side 1. But, he guessed wrong.

Conclusion: Not Real.

Also, no one but AndDoug noted that AlanBumstead is a member here, has 4 posts, at least 1 of which is in this thread. The people arguing about his review (it would seem), ran right by him like Elmer Fudd asking Bugs Bunny for directions as he searched for Bus Bunny. As AndDoung noted, AlanBumstead even corrected someone misquoting him. That is beautiful.

Tell us something we don't know. By the way, I'm a Bumstead fan regardless of the outcome.

chrome horse

Bennyboy wrote:

Thank you one and all.

Now go look up Moore's Paradox.

Well I Googled it, very interesting - no surprise there, considering the source. Then of course, I added Bob Dylan to the Search, and numerous things popped up. As was reading one item, something about Bono calling Steve Jobs the "Bob Dylan of machines" - my iPad crashed!

His lordship returns and it's instantly information overload!

Still Go Barefoot · **Joined:** Fri July 15th, 2011, 03:23 GMT **Posts:** 10376

In fact, I want the promo copy too. I hear that it's half-speed mastering makes it sound so much better that the official release.

stephenoxford

Bumface did say tho' that his review copy had track listing different to the sleeve! Not that that makes a tuppeny shit's difference to its credibility.

Bennyboy

I guess we've all learned a valuable lesson here: that, deep down, there's a little bit of Alan Bumstead in all of us. Just like Jesus and Mister T.

MMD

Still Go Barefoot wrote:

Tell us something we don't know. By the way, I'm a Bumstead fan regardless of the outcome.

Good one.
And what do you mean "regardless of the outcome"? I think that you just exemplified Moore's paradox. Intentional?
I'll check in for your snappy retort later.

stephenoxford

I NOSE MORE THAN YOU!

Fair Play · **Joined:** Mon January 5th, 2009, 20:09 GMT **Posts:** 167

Bennyboy wrote:

I guess we've all learned a valuable lesson here: that, deep down, there's a little bit of Alan Bumstead in all of us. Just like Jesus and Mister T.

Yes, and there are those who still want to believe in Alan.
Believe in Bumstead, he knows.

Train-I-Ride

MMD wrote:

Also, no one but AndDoug noted that AlanBumstead is a member here.

I feel duty-bound to report that the user Train-I-Ride was already onto him, on page 1 of this thread, MMD:

Train-I-Ride wrote:

I don't think he's fooled anyone. He's posted here three times. This is his last one, yesterday morning, on the original 'Tempest, out September 11' thread. No mention of having heard the album:

AlanBumstead wrote:

I've just made the effort to read all 18 pages' worth of opinions on the album cover & song titles. Naturally my built in opinion-generator is itching at the hump to say its piece.

Seems there's a post-modern blank irony inherent in Bob Dylan album covers going back as as far as the 80s. I suppose a (relatively speaking) plainish album cover paves the way to (a) not over-estimating the contents way in advance of hearing them and (b) to produce the effect of rendering the songs, once heard, as rising above their packaging. True, on first glimpse, one experiences a brief sense of bathos at the slightly garish font and juxtaposition of shapes, but it's an album cover that stirs up debate. Any album cover would of course, but not as much perhaps as a slightly garish one, which turns out not to be quite so garish on close inspection.

That said, the cover, as already proven by 18 pages of discussion, has a wealth of interpretive intertextual dimensions to it. 80s dance movies, pontiac tempest advertising, Greek goddess, record store racking browseability, photoshop amateurism, classical mythology, the mix of black and red. I like the wine red; it has a mysterious ominous vibe. I like the title as it intersects with the picture. How does Athena look? Asleep? Experiencing bliss? Post-throes of ecstasy? Goddess-appropriate tempestuously disdainful? And "Tempest" has the most immediate connotations to Shakespeare, violent storms, and but suggesting also the word 'tempestuous' meaning "strong and conflicting turbulent emotion." I think of Robert Herrick's 'Delight In Disorder' with his line, "A winning wave.../ In the tempestuous petticoat."

AlanBumstead wrote:

Naturally my built in opinion-generator is itching at the hump to say its piece.

It did.

MMD

Train-I-Ride wrote:

MMD wrote:

Also, no one but AndDoug noted that AlanBumstead is a member here.

I feel duty-bound to report that the user Train-I-Ride was already onto him, on page 1 of this thread, MMD:

Train-I-Ride wrote:

I don't think he's fooled anyone. He's posted here three times. This is his last one, yesterday morning, on the original 'Tempest, out September 11' thread. No mention of having heard the album:

Of course you noticed! My mistake. I should have known. I printed out my post and promptly ate it.

MMD

stephenoxford wrote:

I NOSE MORE THAN YOU!

That picture made me snort soda water out of my nose onto the screen.

stephenoxford

Good job he didn't snort soda water at YOU out of THAT nose!!

Maybe snorting soda water outta the nose is a metaphor for what Bumfeatures is doing to us!

P.Jekk · **Joined:** Wed July 30th, 2008, 11:28 GMT **Posts:** 1387

Oh, September is a long way off...

Trev

SquareTotemPole wrote:

After careful consideration, I've decided to nominate Alan Bumstead for the little-known but nevertheless prestigious Expecting Rain Discussion Board Pre-Album Release Worthy Distraction Award.

I, for one, have found the entire episode to be a positive rather than a negative, even if it all proves to be bunkum. Right now, I'm 90 per cent inclined to believe it's bunkum, but who here, upon a first listen, won't listen that little bit more closely to see if any of the Bumstead-cited lyrics are real lyrics?

Well, Mr Pole, I think Bumstead's done a good job, but I'm not sure it beats your own tremendous work in the following : viewtopic.php?f=6&t=69246&p=1130886&hilit=+baez#p1130886
Were you 10 per cent unsure about that?

Troubadour64

Still Go Barefoot wrote:

MMD wrote:

OK. Though it ought not have to be said, it seems like it does have to be said anyway. So, here: the alleged review being discussed here is clearly a a parody (of a number of things, including but not only, Dylan's fans)
Leaving external factors aside for the moment, there are a number of internal elements of the "review" that intentionally signal the joke. Throat singing is the most obvious.

Here is a fairly incontestable and objective piece of evidence for those still holding out hope that the review is genuine:
If you look at the picture "quoted" above, from the review website, of the back of the LP, you'll see that the songs are divided into a number of groupings which indicate which of the four sides of the two LPs each song will be on.
Look at the first grouping of songs in Bumstead's (how fun is that to say!?) picture. Side one of Bumstead's (yep. still fun to say) first LP has only the first two songs on it: Duquesne Whistle and Soon After Midnight.

Now look at the way the songs are divided up on Dylan's official store website:
http://www.myplaydirect.com/bobdylan/te ... s/27642919

Three songs on LP 1, side 1, including Narrow Way.

It was a fine guess by Bumstead (yep), putting just two songs on side 1. But, he guessed wrong.

Conclusion: Not Real.

Also, no one but AndDoug noted that AlanBumstead is a member here, has 4 posts, at least 1 of which is in this thread. The people arguing about his review (it would seem), ran right by him like Elmer Fudd asking Bugs Bunny for directions as he searched for Bus Bunny. As AndDoung noted, AlanBumstead even corrected someone misquoting him. That is beautiful.

Tell us something we don't know. By the way, I'm a Bumstead fan regardless of the outcome.

he told me something i didn't know - i didn't know they had the vinyl track divisions posted on the dylan website - nice groupings! not sure why anyone would want the 2 disc version when disc 3 is available with all the tracks on one side though!!! :wink:

Bennyboy wrote:

I guess we've all learned a valuable lesson here: that, deep down, there's a little bit of Alan Bumstead in all of us. Just like Jesus and Mister T.

leave me out of this ! i conscientiously abstain !

AndoDoug

Troubadour64 wrote:

leave me out of this ! i conscientiously abstain !

I can't quibble about Mr. Bumstead's right to get his jollies, but his rejection of my nudge-nudge-wink-wink comment on his blog suggests he is a wee bit too into enhancing the illusion that his parody is a real review. N.b., Bumstead, the internet is chock full of casual browsers who will unfailingly fall for April Fool's jokes - this is the level you are operating on imo

Train-I-Ride

Nothing really beats the BBC 1957 April Fool's Day spaghetti harvest spoof:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXmaS1ZzpA8

goombay · **Joined:** Sat April 18th, 2009, 22:24 GMT **Posts:** 4458

Stigg wrote:

So, what's the consensus? Real or fake?

is this guy a blogger?

goombay · **Joined:** Sat April 18th, 2009, 22:24 GMT **Posts:** 4458

AndoDoug wrote:

Troubadour64 wrote:

leave me out of this ! i conscientiously abstain !

I can't quibble about Mr. Bumstead's right to get his jollies, but his rejection of my nudge-nudge-wink-wink comment on his blog suggests he is a wee bit too into enhancing the illusion that his parody is a real review. N.b., Bumstead, the internet is chock full of casual browsers who will unfailingly fall for April Fool's jokes - this is the level you are operating on imo

o so he is a blogger, that about settles it.

Troubadour64

AndoDoug wrote:

Troubadour64 wrote:

leave me out of this ! i conscientiously abstain !

I can't quibble about Mr. Bumstead's right to get his jollies, but his rejection of my nudge-nudge-wink-wink comment on his blog suggests he is a wee bit too into enhancing the illusion that his parody is a real review. N.b., Bumstead, the internet is chock full of casual browsers who will unfailingly fall for April Fool's jokes - this is the level you are operating on imo

yes i noted both your and train-rides attempts to give him the opportunity to discuss, and his steadfast rejection of the opportunity. it helped me form my own thoughts about where i stand too, so i appreciate it! and i agree with your assertion. i have taken 24 points off of his grade for personal character and decency !

Bennyboy

goombay wrote:

o so he is a blogger, that about settles it.

What's wrong with bloggers?

http://thatblueyak.blogspot.co.uk/2012/ ... h-are.html

I think you're the one at the bottom, right?

goombay · **Joined:** Sat April 18th, 2009, 22:24 GMT **Posts:** 4458

Bennyboy wrote:

goombay wrote:

o so he is a blogger, that about settles it.

What's wrong with bloggers?

http://thatblueyak.blogspot.co.uk/2012/ ... h-are.html

I think you're the one at the bottom, right?

no that aint me, i aint never been photographed, but buffett was a neighbor of mine back in the day when he used to play the flick. good dude.

bloggers are mostly folks that have been laid off from the music biz think they are gonna get rich by folks looking at their ridiculous stuff. they write like the masses are reading when theres 2 subscribers. thats why the come here sometimes to create some interest in their moribund blogs.

charlesdarwin · **Joined:** Fri July 8th, 2005, 10:04 GMT **Posts:** 4042

MMD, Bennyboy, goombay, that's enough - if you want to continue your exchange do so via PM.

Do not respond to each other again on this thread.

If any of you have a problem with that feel free to contact me by PM.

And less ad hominem in general please, play the ball not the man.

goombay · **Joined:** Sat April 18th, 2009, 22:24 GMT **Posts:** 4458

charlesdarwin wrote:

MMD, Bennyboy, goombay, that's enough - if you want to continue your exchange do so via PM.

Do not respond to each other again on this thread.

If any of you have a problem with that feel free to contact me by PM.

And less ad hominem in general please, play the ball not the man.

i understand but i would appreciate if you would remove the grandpa comment. its offensive and out of line toward older people. i love old folks they are full of wisdom without them the world would be lesser place. my 85 year old grandfather is in the hospital and is a great man. i find the general attacks against them out of line.

charlesdarwin · **Joined:** Fri July 8th, 2005, 10:04 GMT **Posts:** 4042

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