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 Post subject: Re: The Cutting Edge
PostPosted: Wed November 4th, 2015, 00:16 GMT 
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This is a true revelation, fantastic!


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 Post subject: Re: The Cutting Edge
PostPosted: Wed November 4th, 2015, 03:02 GMT 

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Bootleg series 7 had plenty of unheard songs. Just the first 5 early days songs are worth it. Having listens to the cutting edge I can't tell the difference between them and the originals. I'd rather have a box set of the Tell O'l Bill sessions, it seemed like you had multiple versions that were different plus you could hear him figure it out live. With this series you don't really get to hear the change ups. nothing new.

Maybe this time period doesn't do it for me anymore. I don't know. I'm buying the thing but will probably never listen. all the good stuff is on volume 1-3 already.


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 Post subject: Re: The Cutting Edge
PostPosted: Wed November 4th, 2015, 03:33 GMT 

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goodnitesteve wrote:
I once sat behind Elvis Costello at a United Palace show in 2009. He's a fine old chap, even though he may be a racist and a prick. Aren't we all?


Seriously? You really think he's a racist? Why, cuz of the Ray Charles thing from the '70s? Come on, it seems obvious that his actions since then very much show he is no racist at all. And hell, he's worked with The Specials (an anti-racist group if there ever was one), Allen Toussaint, The Roots and many, many others. I highly doubt a group like The Roots would work with Elvis if he were a racist.


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 Post subject: Re: The Cutting Edge
PostPosted: Wed November 4th, 2015, 04:39 GMT 
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I don't believe he's racist, I said it as a joke that i realize isn't very funny. However, I think van Morrison said some racist things about Winston Watson


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 Post subject: Re: The Cutting Edge
PostPosted: Wed November 4th, 2015, 04:56 GMT 

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My pre-order of The Cutting Edge Collectors Edition and Best Of 3 LP's has just shipped to Australia!


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 Post subject: Re: The Cutting Edge
PostPosted: Wed November 4th, 2015, 08:50 GMT 

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Just got my confirmation email, my 18 CD set is on its way !!!. :D :D :D :D 8)


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 Post subject: Re: The Cutting Edge
PostPosted: Wed November 4th, 2015, 09:50 GMT 
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Bootleg series 7 had plenty of unheard songs. Just the first 5 early days songs are worth it. Having listens to the cutting edge I can't tell the difference between them and the originals. I'd rather have a box set of the Tell O'l Bill sessions, it seemed like you had multiple versions that were different plus you could hear him figure it out live. With this series you don't really get to hear the change ups. nothing new.

Maybe this time period doesn't do it for me anymore. I don't know. I'm buying the thing but will probably never listen. all the good stuff is on volume 1-3 already.



You CANT TELL THE DIFFERENCE between these early tasters and the originals?

I have tell old bill sessions, most here do, they are perfect quality, i could upload them and call them bootleg series 13.


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 Post subject: Re: The Cutting Edge
PostPosted: Wed November 4th, 2015, 10:55 GMT 
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iamhere wrote:
Bootleg series 7 had plenty of unheard songs. Just the first 5 early days songs are worth it. Having listens to the cutting edge I can't tell the difference between them and the originals. I'd rather have a box set of the Tell O'l Bill sessions, it seemed like you had multiple versions that were different plus you could hear him figure it out live. With this series you don't really get to hear the change ups. nothing new.

Maybe this time period doesn't do it for me anymore. I don't know. I'm buying the thing but will probably never listen. all the good stuff is on volume 1-3 already.


You don't know the difference between a real Blonde and an outtake.


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 Post subject: Re: The Cutting Edge
PostPosted: Wed November 4th, 2015, 11:07 GMT 

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hollowhorn wrote:
This is a true revelation, fantastic!


Yep. And it gets more revelatory the longer it goes on.

His voice, in some of the later verses, almost sounds close to JWH, or Nashville Skyline, or Self Portrait days.


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 Post subject: Re: The Cutting Edge
PostPosted: Wed November 4th, 2015, 12:51 GMT 
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I don't believe he's racist, I said it as a joke that i realize isn't very funny. However, I think van Morrison said some racist things about Winston Watson


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I'm sure Winston had a sizeist riposte in his book. At least he should have done.


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 Post subject: Re: The Cutting Edge
PostPosted: Wed November 4th, 2015, 13:11 GMT 

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I'm really impressed by both the alternate Visions and this Just Like A Woman.

Both incredibly different, and remarkably compelling. (And why there is bickering
over some Elvis Costello trifle amid these remarkable offerings is utterly beyond me.)


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 Post subject: Re: The Cutting Edge
PostPosted: Wed November 4th, 2015, 15:38 GMT 

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goodnitesteve wrote:
I don't believe he's racist, I said it as a joke that i realize isn't very funny. However, I think van Morrison said some racist things about Winston Watson


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The only ever quote I've heard attributed to Morrison about Winston was that he thought the drummer, 'Couldn't keep time'. This is not racist. Frankly I'd be amazed to hear any kind of racist remark attributed to Morrison given the huge regard he has for soul, R&B, etc etc and the vast amount of black artists he has worked with over the decades.


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 Post subject: Re: The Cutting Edge
PostPosted: Wed November 4th, 2015, 16:03 GMT 
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motherwell wrote:
Just got my confirmation email, my 18 CD set is on its way !!!. :D :D :D :D 8)


You got a separate email, right? I did not.
Has the status of the order changed? Mine is still "processing".
Did you place your order early?
Had you trouble in the way that your (first) order has been cancelled?


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 Post subject: Re: The Cutting Edge
PostPosted: Wed November 4th, 2015, 16:17 GMT 

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I got my shipment notification email yesterday, and my collector's edition is now enroute to California from Virginia! Expected ship date of 11/10. FedEx says the package weighs 15.7 lbs!


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 Post subject: Re: The Cutting Edge
PostPosted: Wed November 4th, 2015, 16:19 GMT 

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h.egbert wrote:
motherwell wrote:
Just got my confirmation email, my 18 CD set is on its way !!!. :D :D :D :D 8)


You got a separate email, right? I did not.
Has the status of the order changed? Mine is still "processing".
Did you place your order early?
Had you trouble in the way that your (first) order has been cancelled?


Neither did I. I placed my order early october and had problems placing it (they did not accept VISA). Status is still processing. But hey, they charged the credit card. Success!


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 Post subject: Re: The Cutting Edge
PostPosted: Wed November 4th, 2015, 17:32 GMT 
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Has anyone documented how the other released tracks from these sessions (BS 1-3 and BS 7) plus the officially release tracks all fit together - meaning is there a master take list that can be used to re-insert the earlier released tracks (or are they repeated here) and put the Master Takes in their proper sequence (on a playlist or something).?

Sorry if this was covered, didn't see it...


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 Post subject: Re: The Cutting Edge
PostPosted: Wed November 4th, 2015, 17:45 GMT 
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Hi everyone. My set has been shipped too, but to France and by UPS. So how long will I wait... Can't wait to give it my 2 ears and my 2 eyes !


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 Post subject: Re: The Cutting Edge
PostPosted: Wed November 4th, 2015, 17:52 GMT 
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dpam wrote:
Has anyone documented how the other released tracks from these sessions (BS 1-3 and BS 7) plus the officially release tracks all fit together - meaning is there a master take list that can be used to re-insert the earlier released tracks (or are they repeated here) and put the Master Takes in their proper sequence (on a playlist or something).?

Sorry if this was covered, didn't see it...


As far as I can tell, the released takes are part of the 18 disc set and are in chronological order.

http://www.bjorner.com/65.htm#_Toc491265245
http://www.bobdylan.com/us/thecuttinged ... acklisting


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 Post subject: Re: The Cutting Edge
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dpam wrote:
Has anyone documented how the other released tracks from these sessions (BS 1-3 and BS 7) plus the officially release tracks all fit together - meaning is there a master take list that can be used to re-insert the earlier released tracks (or are they repeated here) and put the Master Takes in their proper sequence (on a playlist or something).?


Not sure if this is what you're looking for, but the official site has the complete track list for the 18-disc set, which labels all the previously-released tracks:

http://www.bobdylan.com/us/thecuttinged ... acklisting

Note that "16. She Belongs To Me – Take 2 remake (1/13/1965) Complete" should be labeled "Released on The Bootleg Series, Vol. 7, 2005."


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 Post subject: Re: The Cutting Edge
PostPosted: Wed November 4th, 2015, 18:07 GMT 
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ttgth wrote:
Hi everyone. My set has been shipped too, but to France and by UPS. So how long will I wait... Can't wait to give it my 2 ears and my 2 eyes !


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Mine too!


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 Post subject: Re: The Cutting Edge
PostPosted: Wed November 4th, 2015, 18:16 GMT 
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You don't know the difference between a real Blonde and an outtake.



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 Post subject: Re: The Cutting Edge
PostPosted: Wed November 4th, 2015, 18:32 GMT 
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goodnitesteve wrote:
I don't believe he's racist, I said it as a joke that i realize isn't very funny. However, I think van Morrison said some racist things about Winston Watson


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The only ever quote I've heard attributed to Morrison about Winston was that he thought the drummer, 'Couldn't keep time'. This is not racist. Frankly I'd be amazed to hear any kind of racist remark attributed to Morrison given the huge regard he has for soul, R&B, etc etc and the vast amount of black artists he has worked with over the decades.


That's what puzzles me. In the Winston Documentary, he says Morrison said something derogatory about him. I guess derogatory could mean "couldn't keep time."


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 Post subject: Re: The Cutting Edge
PostPosted: Wed November 4th, 2015, 18:40 GMT 
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I'd like to move on though...

the people over at the Hoffman forum seem to have received their 18 disc sets already and the discussion is killing me. Goodbye $600...

Here's the credits:

CREDITS
•Bootleg Series produced by Jeff Rosen and Steve Berkowitz
•Compiled by Jeff Rosen
•Mixed by Steve Addabbo
•Mastered by Mark Wilder
•Rough mixes: Damian Rodriguez
•Art Direction: Geoff Gans
•Liner notes: Bill Flanagan and Sean Willentz
•Additional liner note: Ben Rollins
•Product Manager: Jeroen van der Meer
•Warp Drive: Diane Lapson
•Research: Parker Fishel
•Research: Glenn Korman
•Proofreading: Jeremy Holiday
•Production Team: Debbie Sweeney, Will Schwartz, Callie Gladman


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 Post subject: Re: The Cutting Edge
PostPosted: Wed November 4th, 2015, 19:21 GMT 

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h.egbert wrote:
ttgth wrote:
Hi everyone. My set has been shipped too, but to France and by UPS. So how long will I wait... Can't wait to give it my 2 ears and my 2 eyes !


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Mine too!


So is mine!


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 Post subject: Re: The Cutting Edge
PostPosted: Wed November 4th, 2015, 19:58 GMT 

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dpam wrote:
Has anyone documented how the other released tracks from these sessions (BS 1-3 and BS 7) plus the officially release tracks all fit together - meaning is there a master take list that can be used to re-insert the earlier released tracks (or are they repeated here) and put the Master Takes in their proper sequence (on a playlist or something).?

Sorry if this was covered, didn't see it...


This link to the Hoffman forum I believe has what you're looking for. It's about the 4th post on the page and it has every song color coded and where it can be located (blue on the 6 disc edition, black on the 18 collectors set, orange on a previous bootleg series, etc.)

http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/b ... t-13070249


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