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Which is your favourite?
Bob Dylan 2%  2%  [ 1 ]
The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan 57%  57%  [ 25 ]
The Times They Are A-Changing 18%  18%  [ 8 ]
Another Side Of Bob Dylan 23%  23%  [ 10 ]
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 Post subject: Debut VS Freewheelin' VS The Times VS Another Side
PostPosted: Thu December 8th, 2011, 01:26 GMT 
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Which is your favourite of Bobs first 4 albums?

I vote Freewheelin'. As I've said before, this is my fav of his albums along with Bringing It All Back Home. I'll take it track by track.

Blowin in the Wind- It's a timeless classic, maybe Bobs most famous song, and one of the best protest songs ever written.
Girl From the North Country- One of his most beautiful love songs, a great rewrite of Scarborough Fair.
Masters of War - His most scathing protest song and one of his most eye-opening songs. It still applies today.
Down the Highway- Shows Bob playing the blues. A very good song but not the most memorable
Bob Dylan's Blues- A fast tempo country blues song, it's fun but again, not the most memorable.
A Hard Rain's A-Gonna Fall- The best on the album hands down! It's a true epic and a true masterpiece and it has some of Bob's best poetry ever! It's definetley one of my favourite songs by him!
Don't Think Twice, It's All Right- A great breakup song and of his most well- know songs from his early albums.
Bob Dylan's Dream- SO UNDERRATED!!!!!! Seriously, it's a beautiful and touching song about remembering when you were young and wishing you could go back.
Oxford Town- A good song about James Meredith being abused because of his race. Very sad but interesting.
Talking World War III Blues- Perfectly shows how Bob can be funny and thought-provoking at the same time!
Corrina Corrina- Of the 2 cover songs n this album, this is the better one. Beautiful love ballad.
Honey Just Allow Me One More Chance- The other cover song, worst song on the album but still not half bad.
I Shall Be Free- One of Bob's funniest songs!

An album full to the brim with timeless classics!


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 Post subject: Re: Debut VS Freewheelin' VS The Times VS Another Side
PostPosted: Thu December 8th, 2011, 01:30 GMT 
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Agreed

It's just superb


Although times is also fantastic


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 Post subject: Re: Debut VS Freewheelin' VS The Times VS Another Side
PostPosted: Thu December 8th, 2011, 01:31 GMT 
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Another Side, by three miles. A much more varied and mature album.


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 Post subject: Re: Debut VS Freewheelin' VS The Times VS Another Side
PostPosted: Thu December 8th, 2011, 01:35 GMT 
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Another Side, by three miles. A much more varied and mature album.

But performed like a person who didn't really know where he was and as a result drank way too much wine


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 Post subject: Re: Debut VS Freewheelin' VS The Times VS Another Side
PostPosted: Thu December 8th, 2011, 01:43 GMT 
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tellmemomma1966 wrote:
Cipher_Pipe wrote:
Another Side, by three miles. A much more varied and mature album.

But performed like a person who didn't really know where he was and as a result drank way too much wine


Part of the charm. Which, I know, is hypocritical coming from someone who derided the '66 tour as a stoned-out mess, but still. I just react to it much more strongly emotionally compared to the other two and I don't know why. Imperfection fascinates me, I guess.

Plus, it's not about the performance: the songs are simply better (and less plagiarised).


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 Post subject: Re: Debut VS Freewheelin' VS The Times VS Another Side
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I second that Cipher's vote now that Benny has gone.


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 Post subject: Re: Debut VS Freewheelin' VS The Times VS Another Side
PostPosted: Thu December 8th, 2011, 01:47 GMT 
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He changed so much, and so fast. I was given Freewheelin' by my dad when it came out and it quite literally changed my life, youngster that I was. Nothing was ever the same after that... as important as taking acid. The later lp's just reinforced that. What an incredible run of creativity, but the music world was like that then - look at the Beatles or the Stones, two or three albums every year and a single every six weeks - hard to believe but true all the same. 'Another Side Of' was a departure but not as drastic as it seems now, and tales like 'motorpsycho nitemare' are etched in the memory like ancient DNA, amazing brilliant art.... we are lucky to have lived in such times.


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 Post subject: Re: Debut VS Freewheelin' VS The Times VS Another Side
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haven't heard Another Side so feel free to disregard my opinion if you feel the need, but out of the first 3 albums it's Freewheelin' big time. Although I do personally like the Debut album more than The Times.


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 Post subject: Re: Debut VS Freewheelin' VS The Times VS Another Side
PostPosted: Thu December 8th, 2011, 01:52 GMT 
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I voted for the Bob Dylan debut album because there is something very charming about it and I just love it.


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 Post subject: Re: Debut VS Freewheelin' VS The Times VS Another Side
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No! Wrong answer.


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 Post subject: Re: Debut VS Freewheelin' VS The Times VS Another Side
PostPosted: Thu December 8th, 2011, 01:56 GMT 
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No! Wrong reply. Believe it or not, it really is my favorite.
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 Post subject: Re: Debut VS Freewheelin' VS The Times VS Another Side
PostPosted: Thu December 8th, 2011, 02:50 GMT 
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I'm just yanking your chain, dawg.


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 Post subject: Re: Debut VS Freewheelin' VS The Times VS Another Side
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Another Side and Another Direction for Bob Dylan

The album Another Side of Bob Dylan represents an important step in Dylan’s transition from folk to rock and shows the artist moving away from one audience without completely addressing another. Although played with folk instrumentation (acoustic guitar, harmonica, and piano), several of the songs that appeared on the album were, in fact, rock songs. It’s as if Dylan had graduated from the solo acoustic tradition in everything except the solo acoustic musical format
This is attested to by the numerous rock versions — several of which were hits (some major) — of these and other songs written during this period that were to appear in the years immediately following the album’s release. These include:

• “Mister Tambourine Man,” the Byrds
• “All I Really Want to Do,” Cher and the Byrds
• Spanish Harlem Incident, The Byrds
• “Chimes of Freedom,” the Byrds
• “Lay Down Your Weary Tune,” the Byrds
• “It Ain’t Me Babe,” the Turtles, Johnny Cash
• “My Back Pages,” the Byrds
• “I Don’t Believe You (She Acts Like We Never Have Met),” as performed live
in concert by Dylan and the Hawks
• Jack of Diamonds,” a section of the liner notes (“Some Other Kinds of Songs”)
from Another Side of Bob Dylan set to music by Ben Carruthers and performed by
Fairport Convention on the group’s first album
• “California,” sections of which later metamorphosed into the electric “Outlaw
Blues” on Dylan’s Bringing it All Back Home
• “If You Gotta Go, Go Now,” Manfred Mann, Dylan (on a single released only
in Europe), and, in French (“Si Tu Dois Partir”), Fairport Convention.

The hybrid and somewhat unfocused nature of the album — part folk and part rock — marks it as a product of its time. In the early 1960s, the only viable — and intelligent — creative outlet for many of America’s young musicians was folk music, but after America had experienced the Beatles in 1964 through their appearances on “The Ed Sullivan Show,” concert tours, recordings, and film A Hard Day’s Night, things would never quite be the same again. The Beatles’ influence cannot be underestimated. They simply changed everything — from music to fashion to poetry and performance and, in the process, served as the inspiration and model for a generation.
For America’s young musicians, the Beatles and the other groups which made up the British Invasion represented a creative impetus and a challenge by reintroducing them to their own vital musical heritage. British groups and performers, borrowing heavily from early American rock ’n’ roll and rhythm and blues music, now set the style for America’s youth, and ruled the airwaves, the charts, and sales figures. Dylan himself had met the Beatles on one of their American tours and had attended performances by groups such as the Animals, Manfred Mann, and the Yardbirds during his own tours of England. For him, these groups were “pointing the direction” the music had to go in.
America’s formulation of a musical response to the British Invasion, however, would take time as a bridge between folk and rock was worked out. Another Side of Bob Dylan, along with other transitional works such as the demos recorded by the Byrds in World Pacific Studios that later appeared as Pre-Flyte, are part of the process through which this new music was developed. But for Dylan in 1964, the moment was not yet right to challenge his audiences with an electric backing band. (That time, however, was not far off.) The creative sparks set off by the British groups had convinced him that lyrically he had to go beyond the “finger-pointing” songs that much of his reputation and repertoire rested upon and learn to write from within himself and for himself.
Ultimately, what would result was a form of music that combined the beat and instrumentation of rock with the thoughtful lyrics of folk and that came to be known, for better or worse, as “folk rock.” It was through the manifestation of this union in such recordings as “Like a Rolling Stone” and “Subterranean Homesick Blues” by Bob Dylan, “Mister Tambourine Man” and “Turn! Turn! Turn!” by the Byrds, “All I Really Want to Do” by Cher, and “It Ain’t Me Babe” by the Turtles that the British challenge was met in 1965.


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 Post subject: Re: Debut VS Freewheelin' VS The Times VS Another Side
PostPosted: Thu December 8th, 2011, 03:14 GMT 
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I love songs from all of these and play them often on my guitar


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 Post subject: Re: Debut VS Freewheelin' VS The Times VS Another Side
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Another Side of Bob Dylan for sure. One of my all-time favorites of his.


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 Post subject: Re: Debut VS Freewheelin' VS The Times VS Another Side
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Voted for Another Side - It's rock and roll without the rock and roll. I've never heard that from anyone else.

But this vote does in no way mean that I think the others are horrible.


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 Post subject: Re: Debut VS Freewheelin' VS The Times VS Another Side
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carnap wrote:
I voted for the Bob Dylan debut album because there is something very charming about it and I just love it.
Especially that rarely-covered, barnacle-free composition, 'Corrina, Corrina'! (But to be fair Bob is singing a different tune, one recorded by robert johnson, but with some of the lyrics from the titular song)


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 Post subject: Re: Debut VS Freewheelin' VS The Times VS Another Side
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Blowin in the Wind- Just unlistenable, but works on turning sensitive children into hippies. Not unlike Carpenters' 'Close To You.'

Girl From the North Country- He's getting cocky here. Again, children have no way of knowing he didn't write what in this case is a haunting tune.

Masters of War - Foreshadows the 'it's a wonder that you still know how to breathe' line. One can imagine the boffing he got from Suze after delivering this one, but its coarseness rankles.

Down the Highway- Not memorable. Nada.

Bob Dylan's Blues- Jack Kerouac probably managed to hold down his vomit. Was his jig ever up in 1963, poor lad
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A Hard Rain's A-Gonna Fall- Abuse Bob Dylan for pinching from Lord Randall. But never admit science is a candle.

Don't Think Twice, It's All Right- Cut the cord on free love.

Bob Dylan's Dream- A song to live in. Voice cracks when he thinks of his friends, like years later doing Desolation Row.

Oxford Town- Caused Carole King to close down the Brill Building.

Talking World War III Blues-
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Perfectly shows how Bob can be funny and thought-provoking at the same time!
B-) Bad, but ambitious as all git-out. Ask Carl Jung.

Corrina Corrina- On a stylistic mish-mash (of an album, kids), this is too pre-Spector a syrupy Songster reference, or something.

Honey Just Allow Me One More Chance- Honed on the stage.

I Shall Be Free- Something about how music is a palette for time, that makes lines like `freddy or not here i come` pleasant. same kind of thing here mayhaps

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An album full to the brim with timeless classics!


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 Post subject: Re: Debut VS Freewheelin' VS The Times VS Another Side
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AndoDoug:
zoostation wrote:
Girl From the North Country- One of his most beautiful love songs, a great rewrite of Scarborough Fair.


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 Post subject: Re: Debut VS Freewheelin' VS The Times VS Another Side
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AndoDoug wrote:
carnap wrote:
I voted for the Bob Dylan debut album because there is something very charming about it and I just love it.
Especially that rarely-covered, barnacle-free composition, 'Corrina, Corrina'! (But to be fair Bob is singing a different tune, one recorded by robert johnson, but with some of the lyrics from the titular song)
What was I smokin! Might`ve been thinking of Pretty Peggy-O. Or been too eager to tease carnap about CC being his favorite track on Freewheelin`


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 Post subject: Re: Debut VS Freewheelin' VS The Times VS Another Side
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zoostation wrote:
Girl From the North Country- One of his most beautiful love songs, a great rewrite of Scarborough Fair.
Indeed, was just saying that we attribute melodies to whoever most convincingly steals them - because if as kids we`ve never heard it before, they imprints themselves in the version we hear. And things gradually get more crass, like I can`t get Song of Joy out of my head as sung on a Carnation Instant Breakfast commercial (That`s not Breakfast, That`s not Breakfast, That`s not Breakfast, Nor is That.)


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 Post subject: Re: Debut VS Freewheelin' VS The Times VS Another Side
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tellmemomma1966 wrote:
But performed like a person who didn't really know where he was and as a result drank way too much wine
Underrated post.

I voted Freewheelin'.


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 Post subject: Re: Debut VS Freewheelin' VS The Times VS Another Side
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Freewheelin' just for the out-and-out classics of Blowin', Don't Think Twice, Girl From the North Country, Bob Dylan's Dream, Hard Rain, and Masters. Wow, that is an impressive collection of songs.

However, I probably prefer Times as an "album". It's brilliantly thematic and dark, with songs like Hollis Brown, Times, and Hattie Carrol terrifyingly real. Not an album I listen to often, but it hits hard when I do. Boots of Spanish is my favourite Dylan love song too.


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 Post subject: Re: Debut VS Freewheelin' VS The Times VS Another Side
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I guess I'd vote for Freewheelin' or The Times They Are a-Changin'.

Both albums contain numerous outstanding songs ("Girl of the North Country", "Don't Think Twice", "Masters of War", "Hard Rain" vs. "The Times They Are a-Changin'", "Boots of Spanish Leather", "Hattie Carroll", "North Country Blues"). But if you put a gun to my head and forced me to choose one, I'd go with Times, simply because there's not one bad song on this record. (Freewheelin', on the other hand, contains a few tracks which I tend to skip, such as "Down the Highway" or "Oxford Town").

Another Side of Bob Dylan is not bad either, but it's not as good as the other two, in my opinion.


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 Post subject: Re: Debut VS Freewheelin' VS The Times VS Another Side
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Hmmmm, how do you judge one really good thing against another really good thing?

My gut tells me Freewheelin' is the best of the three (and probably my pick for the best Dylan album period). Great original songwriting. Interesting guitar playing in a number of different styles (finger-picking, flat-picking, Open D Tuning, Drop-D Tuning, etc). This is the album that made Dylan famous. An Iconic Album.

My sentimental personal favourite is Bob Dylan's debut album. I love Dylan's energy and musicianship on this record. It is like listening to a master-class in folk music. This is the Dylan album I listen to the most.

With respect to Times, its greatest strength is also its greatest weakness. One's enjoyment of the album is somewhat dependent on one's enjoyment of dour finger-pointing songs. Personally, I like well-written finger-pointing songs so have a certain fondness for the album. I would say that it is on this album where Dylan's musicianship starts to become a bit more perfunctory (ex. the guitar playing on the title track). However, it does have some wonderful musical moments such as the interesting Open A tuning used on "One Two Many Mornings", the Douple-Drop D Tuning on the "Ballad of Hollis Brown" or the terrific harmonica solo on "When the Ships Come In". I would rank it slightly below teh first two albums.

Another Side Of Bob Dylan is probably the weakest of the pack from my perspective. It is the sloppiest record performance-wise of the four, which is unsurprising given that it was recorded in just one night. This particularly seems evident on songs like "Ballad in Plain D" and "My Back Pages", where it sounds like Dylan hasn’t really learnt the chord changes properly before he started recording (to quote Eyolf). That being said, this album, of course, has some wonderful songs on it like "Chimes of Freedom" and "It Aint Me Babe". For whatever reason, I listen to this album the least of the four mentioned.


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