Expecting Rain

If Sony has shushed them, it must be true.

Though strictly seen, every such box set must remain incomplete as long as the artist has not stopped creating, so you can't logically reason you'll buy it to get everything in one place. You'll have loads, but you're still going to have some individual discs sticking next to it.

Anyway, they are off to the charity shop now. I never play them.

Back to the main thread: I won't be buying any more repackaged Dylan albums, and I wouldn't even if all mine were stolen. Most of the 're-mastered' versions don't sound much like they originally sounded at all, and pristine sound has never been something I treasure in a recording.

Also, music is easy to find now. Thanks to the internet, the thrill of the record-shop hunt has gone. And with it the excitement. Live music is what matters to me now - but not Dylan's over-amplified noise!

I went to see Jonathan Richman last week. Smiled all the way through a set of songs most of which I'd never heard before. I could hear every word. That's the way forward for me. That's what I'll be spending my money on.

I'm wondering which "single" songs will be missing although it was stated that the box would contain everything bla bla bla [provide me with the original text of the report, I don't remember exactly].

My first guess is "Can YOU please crawl out your window".

I also wondering if there will be any remastering or remixing of those albums not yet revised.

I will bring in the Neil Young Archives as an example. These were issued on CD and on Blue Ray, maybe on vinyl, too, but this I don't remember right now. Though I have to admit that there are too many tracks from regular albums on it, I also have to say that especially the Blue Rays are of a sound quality I never heard before.

The difference between the (even remastered) CDs and the Blue Ray are best descibed with the difference between the CD version and the vinyl version of Modern Times.

I don't believe that Sony will come up with such an format as Blue Ray, but I only can hope that there will be an improvement in sound like we have in the 3-CD-Box "Dylan" with Brownsville Girl. Than I might fell for the reissue (once again).

Here's part of what it said:

As to the "couple of CDs with miscellaneous tracks":

There once was a long discussion between friends if "couple" means "exactly two" or rather "some", with no clear result. Any native speaker's statement, please.

The result of my pondering this question was that it's pretty much the same as in our language. If they were going to give us literally everything they ever released, two discs might not be enough. The live tracks on all those TOOM singles alone would fill more than one disc. Though in the last consequence, those will probably not be considered for inclusion anyway.

I can't see shovelling out $300 and most of it I already have anyway, just so I can have a complete collection of Bob Dylan. Not when there are a bunch of my other favorite artists I am a long way from being complete on.

This is very smart thinking, and a smart strategy. Can we tell Bob's "people"?

Seriously, excellent idea.

Maybe Brian will throw in an 8 track player!

I don't get it. Only a big Dylan fan would buy his entire collection, but big Dylan fans already have it!

Also, the moment he releases something new after this, new album or more bootlegs, then this expensive 'complete' collection is no longer complete.

It's fair to say that this is not what I was hoping for.

Those are some good points. I may not be a big Dylan fan by that accounting, but I'd be tempted to buy a less expensive box set if he would include just those albums I don't already have. And I wish Paco De Lucia would do the same.

Hmm


exhibition on the same name at the Cité de la Musique, Paris, France. The box comprises the new 2CD compilation (available separately), five of Bob's first six albums (omitting "Freewheelin'"!), the Newport "Other Side Of The Mirror" DVD, and a French language booklet.

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Colin Bodiam But if you look carefully you can see "Freewheelin" lurking between "Times" and the first album!
29 February at 18:27 · Like · 2

Stuart Taylor The two disc set will have to be enough for now. I too have placed an order knowing I should have gone for the whole shooting match.
1 March at 09:11 · Like

Colin Bodiam Is that with Amazon France, you can cancel it and reorder. The whole thing will be 34 euros- roughly 28 quid - to your door.
1 March at 09:14 · Like · 1

David Olley If you live in Europe , why not wait until you go to France, I bet it will be really cheap in a record store.
1 March at 18:28 · Like

Colin Bodiam Just to clarfy, I can confirm ALL of the seven first albums are included (single disc for Blonde On Blonde) plus the DVD plus booklet in French. The two CD set is NOT included and is only available separately.
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Alan Fraser Thanks!
Yesterday at 12:14 · Like

Colin Bodiam I think it would have been nice to have a AUDIO CD version of the Newport years instead of the"Mirror" DVD included. Maybe a contender for the Bootleg series?
Yesterday at 12:14 · Like

Alan Fraser Agreed - an audio "Bob Dylan At Newport" compilation is overdue.
Yesterday at 12:17 · Like

Colin Bodiam Think I'll wait and see if the price drops dramatically on Amazon and in the shops for the comp ...
Yesterday at 12:43 · Like

Alan Fraser Just to correct this, the 8 discs are Bob's first seven albums (BOB on one CD) and the Newport DVD.
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Bob Dylan Complete CD Box Set for Fall--Digital Included - Forbes
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Image via Wikipedia The word is Columbia Records is preparing the ultimate Bob Dylan box set-- a collection of all his albums including his bootleg series. The massive box will be a Dylanographer's delight, collecting every single track including single tracks like "George Jackson" that never made i...
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Chet Williamson And already *having* all this stuff several times over, do I really *need* it? Sigh...probably...
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Stuart Taylor No big deal, sound just like my Box of Vision as I have converted the inside and put in every official album including all the bootleg series and box sets and there is still space left. OK an odd single may not be in there so all we need is a single CD from Sony which has all the singles tracks not on official albums.
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Alan Fraser The Forbes link says "a couple of CDs with miscellaneous tracks". I have my take on the "leftovers" listed here: http://www.searchingforagem.com/Misc/MrD2004.htm

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Alan Fraser That list doesn't include all the live tracks released on CD singles and promos, etc., listed here:
http://www.searchingforagem.com/Misc/FieldRecs.htm

Bob Dylan's "Field Recordings"
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Stuart Taylor Ok may be a four CD set of missing tracks.
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I have a solution to all our problems: A do-it-yourself box set. You pick the albums to include, in increments of, let's say 4 or 8 albums, and you get them at a greatly discounted price off the single album price. This way everyone is happy and no money is wasted on useless albums.

Actually, you're right. I was a big Dylan fan years before owning all of his albums. I just imagine that the majority of fans who are likely to spend the cash on this, are the sort of fans who already own them all.

My hope is that they'll include the kind of bootleg album that wouldn't be commercial enough to release on its own. I know we've all been calling for the complete Blonde on Blonde sessions, but I'm not sure how many people outside the hardcore fans would buy it. I suspect that most casual fans would settle for having Blonde on Blonde itself! If, however, it was included with everything else then that would be a safer way of releasing it and would seriously encourage the fans who've already got the studio albums to get the boxset.

The more I think about it the more I reckon they must be planning to include some more obscure/unreleased stuff to get the fans who already own his albums interested.

They should just sell us the box without the set, and the problem would be solved. Oh wait.... they did that already.

Yeah - I like that idea.

Either way, it's essentially a cash grab before physical cd's go the way of the woolly mammoth. Since the cd's themselves cost about $.25 to produce I suspect they'll make a tidy profit from the hardcore fans with money to spend, who will also walk away happy. It's really nothing to get excited about, although it is lame. The discs of B-sides and other non-album tracks might be nice, I hope it's released seperately.

1. get some cardboard, glue and scissors.
2. make a cardbox box to your bob cd collection size.
3. draw a picture of bob on box.
4. put your cds in box.
5. spend $300 on something else, or give it to charity, or go on a 3 day tequila binge.

anyone who already owns the collection, but buys this, wants their head examined.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/08/opini ... class.html

Bifurcation: the 1% consumer and the freeloaders; only way to make any money is to offer the really BIG package

More on home page of ER, or just follow link:
http://www.examiner.com/bob-dylan-in-na ... e-a-secret

That one on Amazon is surely just the Mono Box repackaged?

SACD box
Box of Vision
Mono Box
etc.....

How many box sets can anyone need? I guess the answer must be 136.

Actually, I would buy this if the price comes down, which it probably will after about a year or so.

My collection is all over the place - it is complete, but I have most albums on vinyl, some on tape, some on CDs. Some of the CDs are twenty years old and show it. My itunes library is a bit of a mish-mash as well. Having a complete box in one place with a free digital download is an attractive option for me.

I guess this means no new Dylan album or new Bootleg album this year.

I tried making a box for one of the Miles Davis box sets I copied from the library. I started with a Nike shoe box and ended with a mostly crappy Nike shoe box that was cut up.

You're right, Bobby, we'll better buy a box of Italian food with all the money