Expecting Rain

You really all have no idea.

Bennyboy, are you really a time traveler that got stuck here with us by accident? Are you from the future and already know this stuff.... Were you really trying to get back to and get a bootleg of the elusive one-time only live performance of "lily, rosemany and the jack of hearts"....?

boy o boy what nonsense. not everyone may listen, but beethoven, haydn and chopin
still consistently command their respective audiences. quality is quality. technology
will advance, but human nature remains human nature, and the appeal of quality
songs fades not with the passage of time.

No, I think it will be a John Lennon song.

Yes, only one of limited space between the ears would suggest that original recordings from 200, 300, 400+ years ago would exist. No, I have not heard Mozart's four-year old recording of "Twinkle, Twinkle Little Star", but I do believe I've seen it displayed in this thread.[/quote]

Exactly. You can't equate a Bob Dylan album with a recording of a classical composer's work.[/quote]

even if you forget the classics, take a performer like bessie smith.
she stopped recording in the early thirties, and was known for
simple songs with elemental melodies.
her appeal is still world wide, and people will still listen to her in
100 years' time. so will people listen to the beatles, dylan and
stevie wonder in 2110. and beyond, for that matter.

If the global warming folks are on target,
people will be cinders & ashes in 100 years,
wonder what the cockroaches will be listening to.....
maybe Bach, Miles Davis, The Stanley Brothers,
& Not Dark Yet......but HOT !!!

You're making tremendous leaps with this little science fiction story you're writing -- people who care about the history of music won't be able to learn about it because the New World Order has outlawed the past? You're putting a lot more stock in the survival of the current music industry than it deserves. So far, these people have not shown the competence required to assert the type control you're describing. You also discount the possibility of new technologies blindsiding the industry as much as torrenting has. The idea that no one will be allowed to listen to Dylan in a hundred years is just too Escape From New Yorky to take seriously. As prohibition, prostitution and the "drug wars" has shown us, if people want something bad enough, the law can only do so much. As long as there are people who care about what came before, Dylan will always be there.

The joys of Jolene @ Osaka 3/13/10 will live forever.

Sssssh, Ms, Lily! There are those who would kill for what I know and have.

For your consideration - 100 years is really not a long time.

There are many, many books that are far older than 100 years old that are still widely appreciated, by authors both widely known and obscure. Why would music be any different? 100 years from now, assuming that humanity and western civilization survive, many people currently on these boards will have only been deceased a few decades, if that. It's very likely that these people will still be enjoying Dylan as long as they still have the ability to enjoy things. Now, when you take into consideration that Dylan's music will likely still be listened to by children of the next 3 generations at the very least, it becomes incredibly probable that Dylan's legacy will survive the next 100 years.

And he's certainly not the only one. I'm willing to bet that 100 years from now, a lot of the music of the last 50 years will still be around. Elvis, Chuck Berry, the Beatles, the Rolling Stones, the Beach Boys, the Doors, Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin, the Velvet Underground, Van Morrison, Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, the Stooges, David Bowie, Pink Floyd, AC/DC, Van Halen, the Ramones, the Sex Pistols, the Clash, Black Flag, Michael Jackson, U2 (*shudder*), Nirvana, Public Enemy, Tupac, Eminem, Green Day, and many other bands/artists have a pretty good chance of staying around for a very long time to come. Maybe they won't always be the flavor of rebellious youth, maybe the things that they sing about won't always be relevant, but they'll always have an audience somewhere.

Depeche Mode, 100m.

OT: Reminds me of the line from "Red River Shore": "I know I've stayed here before / Once a thousand nights before". It is delivered to suggest a long, long time ago, but in fact, it's just three years. Granted, that's forty-five months without her, but that is only a third of a decade. Interesting how numbers can be so deceiving.

Well, perhaps it's not so far off topic after all. Dylan's record sale numbers mean absolutely nothing. If they did (in a negative sense), we certainly wouldn't be seeing any new records.

You can't base the next 100 years on what happened in the last, or any other 100 years in the past. if tomorrow is a long time, a century can be eternity.

You will see. Things will shift beyond your comprehension.

When a 60's superstar is outsold to the tune of 30m by an 80's UK electronic band with a string of barely memorable hits, I find that pretty eye-opening, and it therefore means something. It also puts things into perspective. Dylan may be the greatest songwriter of all time, but if you step outside this hermetically-sealed little temple of worship you'll have to come to terms with the fact that it doesn't make him the most popular. I'm sure people will be listening to Dylan in 100 year's time, but clearly not as many as those that'll be listening to Elvis and The Beatles.

Nope.



Don't give a shit. Have you SEEN what's popular!?


You can't base the next 100 years on what happened in the last, or any other 100 years in the past. if tomorrow is a long time, a century can be eternity.

You will see. Things will shift beyond your comprehension.

-From Chapter 2 of Ben E. Boinson's The Night The Cyborgs Came To Destroy The NET, now available in fine bookstores every- ... well, not fine. But certainly not poor. Solidly middling, which ain't too shabby. Not in the main part of the store, mind you. In the corner, over there. Next to the books with paintings of stereoid cases holding big boobed chicks that housewives use to pleasure themselves. No one will be allowed to read Tolstoy in the future, you know.

Are we talking worldwide or US sales?

Looks like they mean worldwide.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_be ... ic_artists

This is all in your purely subjective opinion. A ton of musicians, music-critics, and fans (including me) disagree with your assessment of Depeche Mode as the musical equivalent of a fast-food meal at Taco Time. Indeed, several musicians, music-critics, and fans (including me) consider Depeche Mode one of the most essential of all post-punk bands, featuring one of the three or four most talented songwriters of the period (Martin Gore).

I am not convinced that your eyes being opened means anything at all. According to your musical judgement, I would suggest having your ears opened.

Yes, predicting future influence is a fool's errand.

I was going to say, at his (first) cultural peak, Dylan wasn't big because of record sales, he was big because of his songs which were heard everywhere via a ridiculous number of covers. Just a different world when songwriters had a more prominent role in the music industry. When he went into rock, he started charting bigger and bigger singles, and even then, a lot of his biggest hits were recorded by other people. The Byrds, the Turtles, even Cher...so record sales won't tell the whole story because Dylan's place in the music industry, from a commercial standpoint (and more of course), was very different from others.

Nostradamus lives!!

Be proud!! Dylan is an acquired taste. Do we really want all the riff raff joining the party? The great unwashed? Assuredly no.

Yes, surely they meant Taco BELL.

Bob sold a couple more CDs today... I picked up Knocked Out Loaded and Good As I Been To You at a 2 for $25... I have the vinyl of Knocked Out Loaded (the cassette has long since been destroyed by my wife ). Never had Good As I Been To You so I anticipate working them in between NET shows at work from time to time.

*I picked them up in Edmonton Alberta... my esteem for Canada has always been high but it just went a good bit higher!

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