river flow wrote:
This is just me, but I've never gotten that used to BOTT as a cohesive listening experience. Part of it is the Minnesota band being weak for me (imagine what that album would sound like if it was performed by a band with the same caliber as the musicians on H61, L&T, Infidels, even Together Through Life). Part of is other versions of songs being substantially better than those on the official release (e.g. Tangled on the test pressing and live in '84, Idiot Wind on both NY takes and live in '76 and possibly evern '92, etc). A BIG part of it is "Lily", I never truly accepted it being in the running order, it's too disruptive for me. The "New York Sessions" bootleg is a more cohesive listening experience, and it has A+ crackling warm vinyl rip sound, but "Lily" is still a drag to sit through and "If You See Her" sounds a little too weak for that magnitute of songwriting.
Thanks as always for sharing, Bennyboy. I haven't listened yet but I'm looking forward to a different version of Desire. The 2003 BOTT & Desire remasters are both too bright for me, and I already have you to thank for the BOTT half-speed (for me, listenable more for the vinyl rip than for the speed).
Desire will still sound like an album of demos to me, though. It's just a shame that I ever had to hear the '75 live versions -- damn did those songs come alive, and then forever "ruined" the Desire album. It's like hearing "Hard Rain" or "Girl From The North Country" on Freewheelin' and then having to go back and listen to them on the Witmark release.
Please do report back on your thoughts on the quad Desire.
If that fails for you, I dunno - after reading your comments above, I'd probably suggest a pillow, a gun and a supportive friend.
The quad Desire gets a thumbs up from me, so whew, looks like I dodged a bullet!
Anyone who's reading this and hasn't downloaded this version yet, do so now while you can. Not to my surprise, the vinyl sourcing gives it a warm, rich, deep sound -- actually much richer than I had expected. It's now a sound I want
to immerse myself in (especially by headphones). Any differences in the mix itself that I've passively noticed so far seem to be in favor of the quad LP over the 2003 CD. Les Kokay summarized some differences in a different thread, and I particularly liked the change in how vocals vs instruments are spread out (though I haven't tried to specifically verify this with my own ears).
I kinda feel like I have a new Dylan album in my music library, now that I'm comfortable with the mix. [I've created my own playlist with the original 9 songs followed by Abandoned Love, Rita May (45 version), and, what the hell, People Get Ready (let me plug Paul Williams & his Performing Artist books to anyone who hasn't read them) & Abandoned Love live.] However, there are still serious problems with the album that I'm still coming to terms with, like the overly topical focus of some of the songs (I'm a bit biased against topical songs), the naive and simplistic intellectual attitude underlying some of the songwriting (see, for starters: Hurricane, Joey), my awareness of the greater energy in both vocals and band in the live 1975 performances (though I can now appreciate the LP as a cohesive and aurally rich artistic statement)...
One important question for you, Bennyboy: How do you tolerate Joey?!?
My strategy right now is pretending it's a long instrumental interlude, with the human voices being mere instruments so as to minimize my conscious awareness of the lyrics. I think it's actually working! But I'm telling you, if they had this song playing at Guantanamo Bay, they would've gotten bin Laden at least 8 years ago...