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 Post subject: Re: Modern TImes - Here's What Wrong
PostPosted: Sun May 20th, 2012, 11:02 GMT 
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goombay wrote:
im on the record as being against the anti bob propaganda.

I haven't really read the thread, but I like this line. Kinda like an anti 'anti-Bob-propaganda' drive.


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 Post subject: Re: Modern TImes - Here's What Wrong
PostPosted: Sun May 20th, 2012, 14:38 GMT 
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Still Go Barefoot wrote:
goombay wrote:
im on the record as being against the anti bob propaganda.

I haven't really read the thread, but I like this line. Kinda like an anti 'anti-Bob-propaganda' drive.


i think it was daryl dragon (i think apologies if it wasnt) who said extremism in the defense of bob music is no crime.

when people think that calling bobs music a polished turd worthy of being snapped in half is not 'nasty' but funny i can see there is a problem, the need to organize a defense for bobs music committee.

as for the crack about frustrated musician anyone who has spent some quality time around them would know what im talking about.


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 Post subject: Re: Modern TImes - Here's What Wrong
PostPosted: Sun May 20th, 2012, 18:37 GMT 

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goombay wrote:
as for the crack about frustrated musician anyone who has spent some quality time around them would know what im talking about.


The frustrated musicians I know get annoyed when they hear current acts on the radio. I'm yet to meet one who gets annoyed because they think they're better than Bob Dylan!!


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 Post subject: Re: Modern TImes - Here's What Wrong
PostPosted: Sun May 20th, 2012, 21:41 GMT 
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Young Bill wrote:
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as for the crack about frustrated musician anyone who has spent some quality time around them would know what im talking about.


The frustrated musicians I know get annoyed when they hear current acts on the radio. I'm yet to meet one who gets annoyed because they think they're better than Bob Dylan!!


you must be new around here.


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 Post subject: Re: Modern TImes - Here's What Wrong
PostPosted: Mon May 21st, 2012, 09:59 GMT 

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Ha! Newish, but I think you're wide of the mark. I've never seen anyone here seriously suggest they have more talent or ability than Dylan! I've seen a lots of people slagging off certain phases of his career, but it's always because they love another phase so much more. This thread is yet another example of that.


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 Post subject: Re: Modern TImes - Here's What Wrong
PostPosted: Mon May 21st, 2012, 16:08 GMT 
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Ha! Newish, but I think you're wide of the mark. I've never seen anyone here seriously suggest they have more talent or ability than Dylan! I've seen a lots of people slagging off certain phases of his career, but it's always because they love another phase so much more. This thread is yet another example of that.



do you know that if a musician wants to get rid of her girlfriend he never goes and breaks up with her directly. hes too sensitive a soul. he goes complaining to a hapless friend about the girlfriend...... do i need to finish the story?


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 Post subject: Re: Modern TImes - Here's What Wrong
PostPosted: Mon May 21st, 2012, 16:11 GMT 
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No need to make this more complicated than it is, lads - album's pretty crap. It's not worth getting heated about in the slightest.


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 Post subject: Re: Modern TImes - Here's What Wrong
PostPosted: Mon May 21st, 2012, 16:16 GMT 
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Bennyboy wrote:
No need to make this more complicated than it is, lads - album's pretty crap. It's not getting heated about in the slightest.



got it lads? the album did suck.


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 Post subject: Re: Modern TImes - Here's What Wrong
PostPosted: Mon May 21st, 2012, 17:01 GMT 

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Personally I think it's biggest fault is the lack of a 14 minute song about the Titanic.


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 Post subject: Re: Modern TImes - Here's What Wrong
PostPosted: Mon May 21st, 2012, 17:05 GMT 
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Young Bill wrote:
Personally I think it's biggest fault is the lack of a 14 minute song about the Titanic.



thats on the new one. i think you lads are supposed to be against it.


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 Post subject: Re: Modern TImes - Here's What Wrong
PostPosted: Mon May 21st, 2012, 17:15 GMT 

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goombay wrote:
Young Bill wrote:
Personally I think it's biggest fault is the lack of a 14 minute song about the Titanic.



thats on the new one. i think you lads are supposed to be against it.


Hell no, you've got me all wrong - I quite like modbob and have defended his recent recorded and live work many times before against those who knock it. I'm looking forward to the new one, Titanic songs and all! I just don't like Modern Times...as you may have gathered.


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 Post subject: Re: Modern TImes - Here's What Wrong
PostPosted: Mon May 21st, 2012, 17:30 GMT 
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Hell no, you've got me all wrong - I quite like modbob and have defended his recent recorded and live work many times before against those who knock it. I'm looking forward to the new one, Titanic songs and all! I just don't like Modern Times...as you may have gathered.



cool your mistake was hangin with the lads instead of the homies.


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 Post subject: Re: Modern TImes - Here's What Wrong
PostPosted: Mon May 21st, 2012, 17:36 GMT 
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Young Bill wrote:
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thats on the new one. i think you lads are supposed to be against it.


Hell no, you've got me all wrong - I quite like modbob and have defended his recent recorded and live work many times before against those who knock it. I'm looking forward to the new one, Titanic songs and all! I just don't like Modern Times...as you may have gathered.


Why?

Why do you and others feel the need to "defend" Dylan. He's a big boy.
People have opinions. Different from yours. K?


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 Post subject: Re: Modern TImes - Here's What Wrong
PostPosted: Mon May 21st, 2012, 17:49 GMT 
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Why?

Why do you and others feel the need to "defend" Dylan. He's a big boy.
People have opinions. Different from yours. K?
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its a bob dylan forum, not a robbie robertson one. im the head of HDBDM Homies for the defense of bob dylan music, HDBDM for short.


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 Post subject: Re: Modern TImes - Here's What Wrong
PostPosted: Mon May 21st, 2012, 20:41 GMT 

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jimb727 wrote:

Why?

Why do you and others feel the need to "defend" Dylan. He's a big boy.
People have opinions. Different from yours. K?


No. I'm not literally defending him. No one is literally attacking him (I hope!). I'm defending MY opinion of him, because as you wisely point out; people have opinions. Different from mine. Yeah, cheers for that one! :wink:

Anyway, I don't get this love all modbob or hate all modbob. Sure, it's not his best stuff (MT), but it's not all bad (L&T). No need to write it all off, or blindly embrace it.

So back to the album; I actually once read that MT is what Dennis Thatcher used to call his wife.


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 Post subject: Re: Modern TImes - Here's What Wrong
PostPosted: Mon May 21st, 2012, 20:55 GMT 
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Young Bill wrote:
jimb727 wrote:

Why?

Why do you and others feel the need to "defend" Dylan. He's a big boy.
People have opinions. Different from yours. K?


No. I'm not literally defending him. No one is literally attacking him (I hope!). I'm defending MY opinion of him, because as you wisely point out; people have opinions. Different from mine. Yeah, cheers for that one! :wink:

Anyway, I don't get this love all modbob or hate all modbob. Sure, it's not his best stuff (MT), but it's not all bad (L&T). No need to write it all off, or blindly embrace it.

So back to the album; I actually once read that MT is what Dennis Thatcher used to call his wife.



i once drove a lad dylanologist around here for a few shows. when i met him there was something strange couldnt put my finger on it till he had to buy something in a store. he turned around and pulled some money from his stomach. turns out he was wearing a money belt. i was askew and asked him why the f was he wearing one of those. he said that he had heard that america was a violent country and was scared of getting robbed. i told him the fastest way to get robbed in the USA was to wear a moneybelt and that i would appreciate if he got rid of it, as we could both end up shot and killed.

the moral of the story is there is no such thing as bob song that is too long. and that you ought not be lead by lads.


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 Post subject: Re: Modern TImes - Here's What Wrong
PostPosted: Mon May 21st, 2012, 21:20 GMT 

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goombay wrote:
i once drove a lad dylanologist around here for a few shows. when i met him there was something strange couldnt put my finger on it till he had to buy something in a store. he turned around and pulled some money from his stomach. turns out he was wearing a money belt. i was askew and asked him why the f was he wearing one of those. he said that he had heard that america was a violent country and was scared of getting robbed. i told him the fastest way to get robbed in the USA was to wear a moneybelt and that i would appreciate if he got rid of it, as we could both end up shot and killed.

the moral of the story is there is no such thing as bob song that is too long. and that you ought not be lead by lads.


Don't know what you mean. Anyway, Bob told me not to follow leaders, and I do whatever Bob says.


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 Post subject: Re: Modern TImes - Here's What Wrong
PostPosted: Mon May 21st, 2012, 21:29 GMT 
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Young Bill wrote:
goombay wrote:
i once drove a lad dylanologist around here for a few shows. when i met him there was something strange couldnt put my finger on it till he had to buy something in a store. he turned around and pulled some money from his stomach. turns out he was wearing a money belt. i was askew and asked him why the f was he wearing one of those. he said that he had heard that america was a violent country and was scared of getting robbed. i told him the fastest way to get robbed in the USA was to wear a moneybelt and that i would appreciate if he got rid of it, as we could both end up shot and killed.

the moral of the story is there is no such thing as bob song that is too long. and that you ought not be lead by lads.


Don't know what you mean. Anyway, Bob told me not to follow leaders, and I do whatever Bob says.



i would hate to see that the new titanic song is 14 min when it could be 30 min, but bob must have cut off at 14. that track is gonna leave everyone googly eyed, its gonna be so good.[*]


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 Post subject: Re: Modern TImes - Here's What Wrong
PostPosted: Mon May 21st, 2012, 23:40 GMT 

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I always thought Modern Times was a play on words for returning to another time a time when recording was still in it's infancy and the sound was up the back and vocals up front. Yeah...the album is alluring and insipid at the same time and that may have to do with the sound. If it the songs had been put to an acoustic arrangement like his 70's feel the songs would - I beleive, have a greater strength and presence - however the album title might require changing. Something like "There was a Time". This album just makes me want to write my own music and songs and inspires me to do so - i try to dig deeper than the sound and look for the feel or the potential of would it could have been.


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 Post subject: Re: Modern TImes - Here's What Wrong
PostPosted: Tue May 22nd, 2012, 00:39 GMT 
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I like Modern Times...for what that's worth.


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 Post subject: Re: Modern TImes - Here's What Wrong
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strange, i was thinking i liked it during pages one through three. then i hit page four and the album altogether sucked. now i don't know what to make of it, but it's sounding pretty good this go around.... 8)


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 Post subject: Re: Modern TImes - Here's What Wrong
PostPosted: Tue May 22nd, 2012, 04:22 GMT 
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strange, i was thinking i liked it during pages one through three. then i hit page four and the album altogether sucked. now i don't know what to make of it, but it's sounding pretty good this go around.... 8)



page 4 was when we turned the thread in bobs favor. bob wrote the material himself, and is the only authority on how it should be recorded/bobs very cool people dis him all the time but he takes it in stride, he doesnt dis his detractors cdrs or facebook or soundcloud or kickstarter pages. bob been standup since day 1.


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 Post subject: Re: Modern TImes - Here's What Wrong
PostPosted: Tue May 22nd, 2012, 10:55 GMT 
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goombay wrote:
page 4 was when we turned the thread in bobs favor. bob wrote the material himself, and is the only authority on how it should be recorded/bobs very cool people dis him all the time but he takes it in stride, he doesnt dis his detractors cdrs or facebook or soundcloud or kickstarter pages. bob been standup since day 1.


Yes, that's how art works, you ragged peacock. The artist makes something and then everyone claps or sits silent. What in the hell are you still going on about? You had better be on Dylan's payroll (or as I said before, Dylan himself), or else your fundamentalism is just creepy.


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 Post subject: Re: Modern TImes - Here's What Wrong
PostPosted: Tue May 22nd, 2012, 11:00 GMT 
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I and I wrote:
I always thought Modern Times was a play on words for returning to another time a time when recording was still in it's infancy and the sound was up the back and vocals up front. Yeah...the album is alluring and insipid at the same time and that may have to do with the sound. If it the songs had been put to an acoustic arrangement like his 70's feel the songs would - I beleive, have a greater strength and presence - however the album title might require changing. Something like "There was a Time". This album just makes me want to write my own music and songs and inspires me to do so - i try to dig deeper than the sound and look for the feel or the potential of would it could have been.


Yes, I think of it as an allusion to Chaplin's Modern Times.


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 Post subject: Re: Modern TImes - Here's What Wrong
PostPosted: Tue May 22nd, 2012, 11:12 GMT 
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jimb727 wrote:

Why?

Why do you and others feel the need to "defend" Dylan. He's a big boy.
People have opinions. Different from yours. K?


Fundamentalists will brook no difference, I'm afraid. Goombay even made up a clever new church for himself.


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